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Elf invoker

OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
in Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition
Is there anyway to mod the game so elves can be any specialist mage? I think it's lame they can only be enchanter or diviner. You would think a long lived race can master any magic they want.

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  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Nevermind. Bg tweak will do it.
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Nope. Tried bg tweaks remove racial restrictions for kits but invoker is still not an option.
  • SomeSortSomeSort Member Posts: 859
    I use the "remove restrictions" components of Tweaks Anthology in IWD and it works fine. Any race can be any class or kit, (except Monks are limited to human-only because the other races lack monk animations).

    https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/48165/testers-wanted-tweaks-is-dead-long-live-tweaks/p1
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Would that be the same tweak pack from gibberling 3?

    http://gibberlings3.net/forums/index.php?app=downloads&showcat=38

    That is the one I used.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Tweaks anthology is the most advanced/up to date version of the tweak pack.
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Cool. Will try that when I get home.
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Nope. Did clean install. It allows elves every class but abjurer necromancy an invoker are not there. Odd
  • ZaghoulZaghoul Member, Moderator Posts: 3,938
    Heh, Im guessing elves were left off due to constitution negatives. And necromancy seems like it was always a human only thing, from the game point of view, but I hear ya, this IS a godchild we are talking about, not the usual type of guy.
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Constitution req is 16. Elves can reach 17 at character creation. Hmm dang. Really was into an elf invoker.
  • ZaghoulZaghoul Member, Moderator Posts: 3,938
    @olteron yeah, I was just thinkin the average would be less, from the game developers point of view.

    You tried using EEKeeper?
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    I'm looking into it as we speak.
  • Necromanx2Necromanx2 Member Posts: 1,246
    EEkeeper works for me. Create an Elf Enchanter. Go into EEKepper and make him an Invoker or Necromancer and it works.
  • RangeltoftRangeltoft Member Posts: 83
    https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/62803/no-race-restrictions-mod-version-1-00-for-bg-ee-or-bg2-ee-version-2-0-and-later/p1

    That one works for Elf Invoker
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Worked like a charm rangletoft. Or worked like a magic missle. Charm never works.
  • SomeSortSomeSort Member Posts: 859
    Olteron said:

    Worked like a charm rangletoft. Or worked like a magic missle. Charm never works.

    That's because you're rolling Invokers and not Enchanters.
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Lol. I'd make an enchanter. But giving up sequence and contingency spells and wish... mordy swords as well. I mean evocation has so much good things to lose. I don't even think enchantment has end game spells.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Olteron said:

    Lol. I'd make an enchanter. But giving up sequence and contingency spells and wish... mordy swords as well. I mean evocation has so much good things to lose. I don't even think enchantment has end game spells.

    I mean they have spells from other schools but there are no enchantment spells above level 5.
  • SomeSortSomeSort Member Posts: 859
    Olteron said:

    Lol. I'd make an enchanter. But giving up sequence and contingency spells and wish... mordy swords as well. I mean evocation has so much good things to lose. I don't even think enchantment has end game spells.

    Wish belongs to two schools, so no mage loses it, (unless a mod kit has both invocation and conjuration as opposed schools).

    Enchantment doesn't have any spells higher than 5th level, but it has several end-game spells. An Enchanter's Chaos forces a save at -6, -10 after Greater Malison. Feeblemind saves at -4 / -8. Both are terrific all through Throne of Bhaal.

    Honestly, the spell I always miss most on my Enchanters is Web. No fair that the direct damage school also gets arguably the best disabling spell over the life of the trilogy, too. But those -6 Chaos spells are super tasty.
  • OlteronOlteron Member Posts: 67
    Do those enchantment spells work on end game bosses? Or are they immune? Because if they are immune then I would rather have mordy swords and mass aoe damage spells.
  • SomeSortSomeSort Member Posts: 859
    Chaos is just confusion, which is one of the more common immunities. Feeblemind immunity, on the other hand, is one of the rarest in the game-- rare enough that the only examples I can think of offhand are Mordek's sword and Planetars/Devas.

    If it isn't immune to magic in a general sense (like Liches, who are immune to level 5 spells), it can almost certainly be feebleminded. This includes undead and constructs (golems) who are otherwise immune to most mind-affecting spells. Hell, it might even work on slimes for all I know-- I've never tried it, but it works on most everything else, so why not?

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