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Is Ranger alignment hardcoded?

seraglioseraglio Member Posts: 122
in General Modding
I modified the alignmnt.2da to make it less restrictive for rangers like 3.x, but I still become "fallen" , at least if rep goes low. Is this a hardcoded feature or something that can be modded elsewhere? If I create a new ranger kit, rather than modding the originals, will it also experience the same issue?

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  • kjeronkjeron Member Posts: 2,367
    You need to add an entry to "FALLEN.2da" for the kit or class.
  • seraglioseraglio Member Posts: 122
    Awesome! Thank you!
  • chimericchimeric Member Posts: 1,163
    How about fallen wizards and fighters (too much chips every night)?
  • kjeronkjeron Member Posts: 2,367
    chimeric said:

    How about fallen wizards and fighters (too much chips every night)?

    That is still hardcoded, only rangers and paladins are able to fall.
  • chimericchimeric Member Posts: 1,163
    And what about blackguards? They are paladins. Can they fall? Or do they fall, eh, upwards into Heroic 20?
  • RedrakeRedrake Member Posts: 426
    edited October 2017
    chimeric said:

    And what about blackguards? They are paladins. Can they fall? Or do they fall, eh, upwards into Heroic 20?

    Oh no...

    "The temptation to do good was too great for a character who deals with demons and is sworn to an evil deity"...

    As far as I know, they cannot fall, even if they get high reputation. The fact that they did fall during the beta-test version of BG1 due to too low reputation makes it rather amusing...
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  • RedrakeRedrake Member Posts: 426
    Why would a mage fall? The only possible explanation I find in becoming too drunk to cast proper spells.

    OTOH... http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0130.html
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  • RedrakeRedrake Member Posts: 426
    Well, that's different. I am talking about the mages as they are in PnP 2E.

    If you want to make a holy warrior of Tiamat, who transforms into a 2 headed blue dragon and want to lose that if you fall from grace, then I have no more comments...
  • BallpointManBallpointMan Member Posts: 1,659
    chimeric said:

    And what about blackguards? They are paladins. Can they fall? Or do they fall, eh, upwards into Heroic 20?

    Interestingly - I did manage to "fall" as a Blackguard once. Didnt really make any sense to me - and was probably a mod issue. I was doing the revised Hell Trials at the end of SoA, and I ended up falling for picking an evil task (the mod at some point stipulates that even a single evil task will cause a Paladin to fall, despite the fact that you can retain your good alignment even if you do a certain combination of good, evil and neutral tasks).

    So... I dont really know what to make of all that, but I guess it's within the engine's possibilities that you can fall.
  • chimericchimeric Member Posts: 1,163
    Does a paladin fall only by a special action or also when the party reputation is too low? There is a trigger for personal reputation, but I don't know what that is useful for, since the actions for reputation only change the party kind.

    You say something about retaining a good alignment... Did that mod have alignment changes?
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