@Iroumen , Viconia - as a neutral evil character, she will leave the party if your reputation goes too high, because of the whacked out alignment and reputation mechanic in the game engine.
Haer'Dalis just told me to get the gem back and that "the inn is in the basement of the Five Flagons!"
Athkatlan logic: place an inn in its own basement. Nice with an inn in an inn I suppose. Perfect place for gambling and the like so you can sin n' win in an inn in an inn.
Candlekeep Logic: Requires book valued at 5,000 gold pieces to be donated every single time someone enters. *Entire castle contains no valuable books when ransacked.*
Drow Logic: Yo! Protector whose good name I depend upon to get me out of trouble! Your name is too good, I'm leaving! "..."
What is this one referring to?
Viconia.
It also works with Baeloth, you just have to change the context.
I know you're protecting my precious personage; but my asinine association with you putrid paragons is beginning to bug me. Enjoy your worthless wearisome existence while you can still can; I'll be taking my leave now.
Yaga-Shura logic: Charname has conspired with my foster mother and robbed me of my invincibility, finally making it possible for somebody to kill me. The only logical response to my newfound mortality is to march right into battle.
Yaga-Shura logic: Charname has conspired with my foster mother and robbed me of my invincibility, finally making it possible for somebody to kill me. The only logical response to my newfound mortality is to march right into battle.
Psychologically that's probably exactly what somebody would do in that situation. Human (and presumably giant) nature would likely lead someone to deny the possibility that they're now vulnerable by overcompensating. Logically they should become less risky once they're no longer impervious to death, but most people (or probably giants) are not logical...
After defeating Conster and freeing Iltha, she thanks me, asks me to meet her back at her father's cabin, and then leaves the area by the shortest route ... by walking straight down into Firkraag's lair!
Candlekeep Logic: Requires book valued at 5,000 gold pieces to be donated every single time someone enters. *Entire castle contains no valuable books when ransacked.*
Speaking of books, a few things come to mind.
What I want to know is, what book Skank and Carbos donated. Especially since whoever supplied them with such a book was depending on a coupla real goobers to pull off the murder of our fine PC's.
Furthermore, I wonder, if there actually was a Great Book of the Unknowing, and one could actually remember finding it (if it indeed existed), what that would be worth.
Lastly, it would interesting to tie in the book we use to get back in CK with, "The History of the Nether Scrolls", to Edwin, given his quest in BG2.
Well, your party of six does not need six books to get into Candlekeep so it is safe to assume carbos and shank are entourage of someone else visiting the place and who is likely in the library at the time.
Merchants in Faerun have unlimited amounts of cash lying around. No matter how many rare and expensive items you picked up during your latest dungeon crawl, and no matter which merchant you choose to deal with, they can always afford to pay you the right price for the items.
Also, they must be nearly omniscient. They can identify anything - if YOU know that the sword you're selling is a +5 two-hander called "Carsomyr", the merchant knows it as well; he or she doesn't need to check if you're trying to peddle a +3 Cursed Sword of Berserking as a Holy Avenger. Most merchants can identify anything for you if you're willing to pay the price.
Merchants in Faerun have unlimited amounts of cash lying around. No matter how many rare and expensive items you picked up during your latest dungeon crawl, and no matter which merchant you choose to deal with, they can always afford to pay you the right price for the items.
Also, they must be nearly omniscient. They can identify anything - if YOU know that the sword you're selling is a +5 two-hander called "Carsomyr", the merchant knows it as well; he or she doesn't need to check if you're trying to peddle a +3 Cursed Sword of Berserking as a Holy Avenger. Most merchants can identify anything for you if you're willing to pay the price.
They all just have a bunch of Glasses of Identification.
One thing I've wondered is if you have to donate a book that Candlekeep doesn't already have. That would be pretty hard to find. Or do they have tons of copies of the same titles that are expensive but relatively easy to find?
In the world of BG doors are sentient beings that can change their size at will: One minute they are too small for a single adventurer to get through, the next minute they are large enough for an entire party of six to pass through. (They also make you hear voices in your head - "You must gather your party......")
It is not beyond the bounds of infinite improbability that these doors were in fact originally made by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
One thing I've wondered is if you have to donate a book that Candlekeep doesn't already have. That would be pretty hard to find. Or do they have tons of copies of the same titles that are expensive but relatively easy to find?
Well, you probably have to factor that new books are always being written. You can probably give them the latest book from a very well known scholar they don't own to get in. So, new books would work too.
One thing I've wondered is if you have to donate a book that Candlekeep doesn't already have. That would be pretty hard to find. Or do they have tons of copies of the same titles that are expensive but relatively easy to find?
Well, you probably have to factor that new books are always being written. You can probably give them the latest book from a very well known scholar they don't own, to get in. So, new books would work too.
“Let me in. Here’s your book.”
“The endangered species cookbook? Let me see that? You’re a fraud! I’ve never heard of any of these creatures.”
“Exactly. It’s the endangered species cookbook. It sold well for a summer and then...you get the idea. There aren’t many of these books left.”
“Welcome to Candlekeep. Enjoy your stay.”
Edit: I looked it up and look what I found:
“The endangered species gourmet cookbook: Or the gastronomics of supply-side extinction”
One thing I've wondered is if you have to donate a book that Candlekeep doesn't already have. That would be pretty hard to find. Or do they have tons of copies of the same titles that are expensive but relatively easy to find?
Well, you probably have to factor that new books are always being written. You can probably give them the latest book from a very well known scholar they don't own, to get in. So, new books would work too.
“Let me in. Here’s your book.”
“The endangered species cookbook? Let me see that? You’re a fraud! I’ve never heard of any of these creatures.”
“Exactly. It’s the endangered species cookbook. It sold well for a summer and then...you get the idea. There aren’t many of these books left.”
“Welcome to Candlekeep. Enjoy your stay.”
Edit: I looked it up and look what I found:
“The endangered species gourmet cookbook: Or the gastronomics of supply-side extinction”
With Nwn:EE on the horizon I thought of some things from HotUs finale.
HotU logic: Main character returns to battle Mephistopheles outside Duncans tavern. Even after all the riches and spoils of the long journey through Undermountain, the underdark and even Cania. Your main character still has the gall to tell Duncan ''I've returned for my reward'' or something similar to that =P
Also an Archdevil just entered Faerun in one of the biggest cities in Faerun.. I mean shouldn't some other prolific heroes arrive at the scene by that time?^^
This Cowled Wizard we kill for Edwin... why does he leave the door open? Isn't he worried that mephits will escape into the city? And what if there is a postman with a letter from distant relative? Does he deserve to be fried (or crushed) to death?
This Cowled Wizard we kill for Edwin... why does he leave the door open? Isn't he worried that mephits will escape into the city? And what if there is a postman with a letter from distant relative? Does he deserve to be fried (or crushed) to death?
There is probably a mail box. Mailmen shouldn’t go into your house. There could be guard mephits
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Anomen Logic: "Hey baby, you're my kind of woman."
Elf: "I was a woman for ten minutes. Last week."
"Still counts, c'mere you."
Athkatlan logic: place an inn in its own basement. Nice with an inn in an inn I suppose. Perfect place for gambling and the like so you can sin n' win in an inn in an inn.
*Entire castle contains no valuable books when ransacked.*
I know you're protecting my precious personage; but my asinine association with you putrid paragons is beginning to bug me. Enjoy your worthless wearisome existence while you can still can; I'll be taking my leave now.
After defeating Conster and freeing Iltha, she thanks me, asks me to meet her back at her father's cabin, and then leaves the area by the shortest route ... by walking straight down into Firkraag's lair!
Definitely the game, the pathfinding is abyssmal, especially in the original vanilla games.
Magic Missile and Fireball hit automatically, but Minute Meteors and Energy Blades need to be thrown and can miss.
What I want to know is, what book Skank and Carbos donated. Especially since whoever supplied them with such a book was depending on a coupla real goobers to pull off the murder of our fine PC's.
Furthermore, I wonder, if there actually was a Great Book of the Unknowing, and one could actually remember finding it (if it indeed existed), what that would be worth.
Lastly, it would interesting to tie in the book we use to get back in CK with, "The History of the Nether Scrolls", to Edwin, given his quest in BG2.
My level 29/24/30 Fighter/Mage/Thief couldn’t read it either
Also, they must be nearly omniscient. They can identify anything - if YOU know that the sword you're selling is a +5 two-hander called "Carsomyr", the merchant knows it as well; he or she doesn't need to check if you're trying to peddle a +3 Cursed Sword of Berserking as a Holy Avenger. Most merchants can identify anything for you if you're willing to pay the price.
It is not beyond the bounds of infinite improbability that these doors were in fact originally made by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
“The endangered species cookbook? Let me see that? You’re a fraud! I’ve never heard of any of these creatures.”
“Exactly. It’s the endangered species cookbook. It sold well for a summer and then...you get the idea. There aren’t many of these books left.”
“Welcome to Candlekeep. Enjoy your stay.”
Edit: I looked it up and look what I found:
“The endangered species gourmet cookbook: Or the gastronomics of supply-side extinction”
https://www.amazon.com/endangered-species-gourmet-cookbook-gastronomics/dp/0910937079
“Currently unavailable”
Maybe it would get you into candlekeep...
What price you ask? YOUR SOUL!
Zaram: Umm, well an undead elven lunatic kinda already took that so can I give you an IOU?
Also an Archdevil just entered Faerun in one of the biggest cities in Faerun.. I mean shouldn't some other prolific heroes arrive at the scene by that time?^^
I wouldn't know too much about IWD, I only ever made it to Chapter 4.
Also did the Mass Patch Message startle anyone else?
And what if there is a postman with a letter from distant relative? Does he deserve to be fried (or crushed) to death?