Should Manuals & Tomes be Transferable into BG2?

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Djimmy

I think they(or some of them) should be somewhere in Irenicus's dungeon. Just like Helm of Balduran is.

CamDawg

Yes, they should import, and be used by Irenicus.

Kushu

I like the idea of them being transferrable.
If they are not, I think the next best thing would be to improve the transition between BG1 and BG2 by letting me load my entire BG1 save game at the start of BG2. Then the game can compile, from that, what the stats of returning characters should be. If I use three tomes on Edwin in BG1, let his stats in BG2 reflect this.

JuliusBorisov

It's one the most anticipated questions regarding BG2:EE. It will be great to find out how the transfer will be dealt rather sooner than later. Just to plan your party and your own stats in BG1.

mlnevese

If you have the books in your inventory by the end of BG1 I see no reason Irenicus and Bodhi wouldn't use them. He's a powerful mage and a genius after all.

bloodcarver

Why shouldn't Irenicus use them? What would stop him?! OK, I might agree to update Irenicus and Bohdi with spell scrolls and tomes you have in your inventory. They should use all the tomes, learn all spells they don't know, drink all potions that could help them and so on. And of course get rid of most of stuff unusable for them.

Edwin

He left you those snazzy underwear.....ingrate.

mlnevese

bloodcarver said:

Why shouldn't Irenicus use them? What would stop him?! OK, I might agree to update Irenicus and Bohdi with spell scrolls and tomes you have in your inventory. They should use all the tomes, learn all spells they don't know, drink all potions that could help them and so on. And of course get rid of most of stuff unusable for them.

A good idea. You should find most of your BG1 endgame gear in shops everywhere, after all Irenicus' lab must be very expensive to maintain why wouldn't he sell the items he has no use for?

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CamDawg

mlnevese said:

A good idea. You should find most of your BG1 endgame gear in shops everywhere, after all Irenicus' lab must be very expensive to maintain why wouldn't he sell the items he has no use for?

Please, it's pretty clear Irenicus is the 1% and doesn't need the money.

He's already 'Gone Galt' with his off-the-grid underground lair to escape the job-killing (and mage-killing) regulations of the government and replaced good, Amnish labor with non-union golems. When his lab collapses (probably because of lax OSHA inspections) he engages in regulatory capture to avoid penalties and fines, offshoring his whole organization in the process.

When this scheme eventually blows up, he tries to distract from his failures by preemptively invading an unrelated country in a thinly-veiled scheme to funnel gold to his buddies in the drow military-industrial complex.

Edwin

CamDawg said:

He's already 'Gone Galt' with his off-the-grid underground lair to escape the job-killing (and mage-killing) regulations of the government and replaced good, Amnish labor with non-union golems. When his lab collapses (probably because of lax OSHA inspections) he engages in regulatory capture to avoid penalties and fines, offshoring his whole organization in the process.

When this scheme eventually blows up, he tries to distract from his failures by preemptively invading an unrelated country in a thinly-veiled scheme to funnel gold to his buddies in the drow military-industrial complex.

ROFL...

Kirkor

I like hamsters.

Kaltzor

Testing around, It changes the characters stat entirely so if you use them on your own character you should by all means have the bonus stats still in BG2.

Dee

@Kaltzor
You do keep the bonus if you use it on the protagonist, because the protagonist is actually imported directly into BG2.

Where it gets dicey is when you use it on one of the other party members, because they aren't directly imported--they're entirely different .cre files. It's also for this reason that Imoen will always end up a Dual-Classed mage, even if you never dual-class her in BG1.

bloodcarver

What I hate most in pen&paper games is meta-gaming. "Oh I would certainly give him that tome but my DM mentioned something about next advcenture being for sneaky types so we'll need to left him behind".
Maybe forget it and just enjoy the show?

Second game assumes quite a bit about how you played first one. It assumes some dual-classing took place, and chara stats really are bit different, aren't they? Wouldn't it be plain simplier to just assume in BG2 that she used one tome of int somewhere before and leave it?
If we want bg2 to check for statuses of an NPCs, the topic "did Imoen used that tome" seems almost irrelevant to the question "is she alive?". She died the way preventing ressurection in my first go thorough the BG1. Same question for Minsc and Jaheira, Montaron, Garric... Stitching it all would require damn big changes in original content so as fair as I understand it's out of the question. We'll have to live with the assumptions BG2 made. And if you want to powergame, you can use debug mode and conjure "missing" tomes, or kill NPCs you don't feel you need.

OzzyBotkins

You should be able to find some of your equipment in Irenicus dungeon
I remeber that Imoen mentioned that your best stuff was sold
Well to who and where
there should be a new merchant created that will have some of the Items of your
that were sold
maybe just the CHARNAME items to keep it simple