This is through Atari, and I'm saddened to say we have not been able to reach an agreement around Steam keys yet. We're trying. Royalty-wise, Steam is making way more than we are per copy, so it is a bit bittersweet.
Thank you Trent! For keeping us informed And I'm glad it is now on steam, though i bought a copy for my friend 2 days ago, if only i had known, i would have bought it on steam, since this is only what my friend uses..
edit: you say they make more than YOU do with those sales?? screw that, im glad i bought it from you
This is through Atari, and I'm saddened to say we have not been able to reach an agreement around Steam keys yet. We're trying. Royalty-wise, Steam is making way more than we are per copy, so it is a bit bittersweet.
-Trent
Woah. That sucks Wish you can reach an agreement, I'd also love to only have to use one client rather than both steam and beamdog.
You actually often get "free" Steam key when you buy an "indie" game from some other store such as the developers own. It costs very little for Valve to hand them out like this and ensures there will be more users on Steam.
That said, given that we've already bought the game, I'd say its highly unlikely they'll retroactively donate Steam keys.
EDIT: Trent just posted this on twitter:"We have not been able to reach an agreement with Atari regarding Steam keys for existing users. We are still trying." - Trent Oster
This is through Atari, and I'm saddened to say we have not been able to reach an agreement around Steam keys yet. We're trying. Royalty-wise, Steam is making way more than we are per copy, so it is a bit bittersweet.
-Trent
That's unfortunate. I would love it if there was a way to buy it directly from you, but still receive a steam key without screwing you guys out of profits.
Just in case I misunderstood, "This is through Atari," did that mean Overhaul didn't want it on Steam and Atari was able to force them to put it on Steam? Or that Atari would have to approve the keys.
Is the Mac version going to be released via Steam as well as the Apple App Store, and if so will it be a "SteamPlay" release, offering both Mac and Windows licences for one purchase?
They have the ability to release the game that Overhaul modified heavily, with characters Overhaul created and added, and that Overhaul supports without Overhaul's permission?
ugh, just brutal that we're not getting steam keys. I bought this through beamdog a year ago right when they were first taking pre-orders because they said 'beamdog exclusive, maybe one day somewhere else but certainly not anytime soon!'
ugh, just brutal that we're not getting steam keys. I bought this through beamdog a year ago right when they were first taking pre-orders because they said 'beamdog exclusive, maybe one day somewhere else but certainly not anytime soon!'
Same for me though it wasn't a year ago. Even saw Trent himself harping on his twitter account about how Steam release was extremely unlikely anytime soon at least.
Oh crap. Is Overhaul getting any money from this Steam release then? I hope so because I really want BG2EE to happen...
I'd be surpised if the amount of money it is getting is negligable, but obviously if a bunch of people buy it on steam who would otherwise not have noticed or bought it then its a good thing, but if people were waiting to buy the game anywy, and now buy it on steam then you can kind of see why overhaul might feel a little sad about it.
It's probably a good thing that the game has already been out for 2 months already before releasing on steam, but if there is a simultaneous steam release for bg2, for example, then it could be a problem
ugh, just brutal that we're not getting steam keys. I bought this through beamdog a year ago right when they were first taking pre-orders because they said 'beamdog exclusive, maybe one day somewhere else but certainly not anytime soon!'
Same for me though it wasn't a year ago. Even saw Trent himself harping on his twitter account about how Steam release was extremely unlikely anytime soon at least.
it probably was more like 6 months ago now that I think about, whenever they first started selling it heh
How soon Steam updates its sales statistics? Its interesting how successful this will be, especially considering Euro Truck Simulator is at the top one day after its release.
BTW its £14.99 on Steam in the UK, that's more than the $20 I paid for the Windows version of the game converted back to £s.
When the Mac version of BGEE is released, if it's available through both the Apple App Store *and* Steam, will Overhaul get more royalties through the Apple App Store? If so, I will definitely buy through that, even if the prices are comparable, or even slightly more on the Apple App Store, as want to support future development.
@Oxford_Guy Steam and Apple both take a 30% cut. But the business terms might be different...
@Zeratul I would imagine Overhaul will be able to dictate when patches are released, otherwise it would completely undermine their efforts to sync multiplayer.
Steam keys would encourage more people to buy direct from Overhaul, which would be good for the developer.
At the same time, people may decide to ask for refunds so they can purchase on Steam. This, rather than being good for the developer, is bad for the developer.
I think that if people got Steam keys, they'd just forget about Overhaul's own client, thus rendering the point of staying away from monolith Steam, well, pointless.
I have been so afraid for this to happen. I hope it won't affect the community as well.
Also, loyalty is a hard good to find nowadays, it seems.
Does overhaul make enough money with Steam selling it? It sounds like they have less profit, but still make some money. Perhaps it's a good thing if overhaul already got most of the people who knew about it and wanted to buy it. Now that it's no steam more people who wouldn't have thought about buying it may buy it.
For the non steam version of the game, are you guys getting the majority of the cost from a game purchase, bearing in mind all the licensing agreement?
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edit: you say they make more than YOU do with those sales?? screw that, im glad i bought it from you
Wish you can reach an agreement, I'd also love to only have to use one client rather than both steam and beamdog.
That said, given that we've already bought the game, I'd say its highly unlikely they'll retroactively donate Steam keys.
EDIT: Trent just posted this on twitter:"We have not been able to reach an agreement with Atari regarding Steam keys for existing users. We are still trying." - Trent Oster
I think it means that Atari made the decision without talking to Overhaul about it.
They have the ability to release the game that Overhaul modified heavily, with characters Overhaul created and added, and that Overhaul supports without Overhaul's permission?
Wow. That seems unfair.
It's probably a good thing that the game has already been out for 2 months already before releasing on steam, but if there is a simultaneous steam release for bg2, for example, then it could be a problem
When the Mac version of BGEE is released, if it's available through both the Apple App Store *and* Steam, will Overhaul get more royalties through the Apple App Store? If so, I will definitely buy through that, even if the prices are comparable, or even slightly more on the Apple App Store, as want to support future development.
Atari can do such thing? I'm really lost at this point!
@Zeratul I would imagine Overhaul will be able to dictate when patches are released, otherwise it would completely undermine their efforts to sync multiplayer.
At the same time, people may decide to ask for refunds so they can purchase on Steam. This, rather than being good for the developer, is bad for the developer.
I have been so afraid for this to happen. I hope it won't affect the community as well.
Also, loyalty is a hard good to find nowadays, it seems.
For the non steam version of the game, are you guys getting the majority of the cost from a game purchase, bearing in mind all the licensing agreement?