Not being able to get belt of antipode
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Hi, I am quite new to the game so this is my first play through. However I just discovered that I cannot obtain the belt of antipode because it did not occur to me to go loot Gorion's body for the item the first time I was in the map lion's way.
Now only after reading a post about new magical items in the General Discussion Section did I realise that there was an unique item in Gorion's body. Could you make it such that unique items stay in the game world permenantly regardless of where the item is in? I do not want to restart nor do I wish to edit my saves as this is my first playthrough with the game and I want to keep it legit.
Basically the "bug" is unique magical items not staying in the game.
Thanks for any help in advance.
Now only after reading a post about new magical items in the General Discussion Section did I realise that there was an unique item in Gorion's body. Could you make it such that unique items stay in the game world permenantly regardless of where the item is in? I do not want to restart nor do I wish to edit my saves as this is my first playthrough with the game and I want to keep it legit.
Basically the "bug" is unique magical items not staying in the game.
Thanks for any help in advance.
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Edit: in other words, somewhere on the coast there's a poor Gibberling stumbling around with severe brainfreeze right now.
The old FAQs do not have information about the new items, so its not quite right to say that players ought to know before hand that these items exist. If you are just trying to troll scriver, then you can just keep it to yourself.
http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/8110/a-guide-to-new-magic-items-spoilers/p1
This is not a bug.
Afterall there is not that many magical unique items as opposed to the bulk of normal items so it is fair to say that if it is programmable they should just make such items stay in the game world as long as possible. Things like the ring of wizardry do not disappear if you do not go to the tree and get it. Think of Gorion's body as the same type of container and it would be better.
It feels like the game is cheating on me when I cannot get unique items that should be reasonably obtainable. Like I said, this is my first play through with Baldur's gate. I do not have prior knowledge nor experience to say that I ought to know better.. the thread you mentioned was the one I just checked out and realised that belt of antipode is in Gorion's body!
Now if this can be fixed through a patch that would be great, like I said this is my first playthrough, I want it to be legit and not have to edit due to holes in the developers game system.
Loot on bodies is a feature, always has been. If you fail to grab it when you have the opportunity, it does away. His body is left in the open to rot... Think of it this way: if you don't clear out his items, another creature or character will when they find it. Just remember to check his body on your next playthrough. That is how we learn what's in the game, by playing it. There will be no patch to alter this feature.
Belt of antipode has no replacement, so if I do not know if I need it does not mean that I should not get it if it is possible. I would be very disappointed if this not fixed. Like I said this is my first playthrough, I am trying to keep it as legit as possible with minimum reloads and bug occurrences as well as avoiding bad game "features". So I am asking for some legitimate programming help on this, I feel editing is unwarrented as it is sort of "cheating". True you could say that this is one of the times where it might be warrented but like I said, its my first playthrough...... I am a little rigid in my thinking when it comes to this. So please if you can help developers, please help.
If you don't want it to be legit:
CLUAConsole:CreateItem("BELT16",1)
I will move this to feature requests and perhaps it will get a second look.
There is NO WAY to get the item back without editing, so this is just very annoying. A game is supposed to be fun, and in an action RPG such as these getting magical items is part and puzzle of the game. What fun is it when you cannot get what is irreplacable. Ever game has its own lessons to be learnt but if it is no fun, then the game has failed. Now no where in the tutorial was it mentioned that magical items would disappear if you left the game map, so its not fair to say you were given fair warning about this "feature" in the game.
I do not understand why you guys are being so difficult with regards to fixing this, if its replacable I would not be talking about it. I just want to have a good time with this game so I want to get everything that is unique where possible. Try and help me out on this guys, afterall this game is not a short game, replaying from the start is not exactly a viable option when I am already in the third chapter.
Take my words with a bit of salt, though. I'm not always as expertly as I sound
1) deal with the loss of the artifact
2) restart a new game
3) use the CLUA console to add the item to his current game
A patch (and I still believe this should not be fixed) would not make the item magically reappear once is gone.
Throw away your game FAQ's... or use them with a 'grain of salt'. They may not be accurate any longer.
I know you are frustrated you missed an item, but really its not that big a deal is it? You can get it your next playthrough. I remember the first few times I played BG1... I too avoided that area because I thought there might still be enemies up there and I am only level 1. I mean, you can see that gorion drops stuff in the cutscene. So one time I grabbed Xzar and Monteron(who are just up the road in this area) and had Immy... and prepared for the worst... had to see what he dropped. Wolves almost killed us, but we got up there and I found a note on Gorion's body explaining a whole bunch of stuff. And I thought..... omg! That makes sense... I always wondered that.
The note is still there... just now there is also a belt. There is other stuff up there too that wasnt dropped before or in the game FAQ ... but won't spoil you. The point is this; you will likely play this game several times and miss items and quests and xp. Just play the game. There are no items in the game that you can't finish it without. Some are more useful than others. There are also certain items in the game you WILL NOT GET if you follow certain paths in a quest or certain classes, alignments, races, NPC's, etc. Other players may talk about these items or rewards... but you wont ever see them because you made different game choices. Such things are the nature of a huge RPG like Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition.
@reposter There are tons of people here around the forums that will be happy to help you, as will I. Be careful of spoilers... but if you just gotta know something, post a question. I tried to be careful not to post anything too spoilery for you here... hope I was successful.
Also, I was and am a chronic 'restarter'! Create a character.. play a bit, then start over with a new character. After years of playing I have a character I love and know will be good... so I just keep using it now. That will take time for you. Just enjoy the ride! Every playthrough can be different. Heh.
Yet another reason not to use IE
Back on topic, is it true that the only way to prevent an item from disappear it is to set it as plot item, but this would also make the item unsellable, and that you can do it in NI setting the flag Unsellable(0) ?
As for you specific question, not really. Plot items are just flags to identify the item associated with a plot. I really dont think you can keep an item from disappearing using that. Will probably work in your inventory for wild mage surges or Nishruu draining items though, stuff like that.
@reposter Did you happen to go back there from your current chapter to see if there is anything left there? Maybe this can be adjusted.
Hi Bhaaldog, that was what I was thinking as well, I thought the minions would still be there with the mage. That was why I walked away. If I had checked the updated items list earlier this could have been avoided.
I was thinking I could use the belt on Rasaad when farming XP from Snow wolves cause even at level 4 he is a little underwhelming in terms of HP. So there you have it, one place where I could use the belt.
Let me throw my $0.02. The fact is you'll miss other itens and quests along the way. I've been playing these games since the original was released and I stil sometimes forget to grab an item or get a quest.
Do not worry about a missed item you just have to develop a strategy that does not take it into consideration. Really there are no itens in this game that you MUST have to complete. The only itens you NEED are the quest related ones and those are usually hard to miss.
And trust me, in 15 years you'll still be discovering new things in the game. Since I joined these forums I've seen many posts by people trying not only things I had never done, but things I had never even thought about doing.
Enjoy the game, don't worry about missing itens or missing quests, it only means you'll have something new to do next time you play