Ajantis!

byrne20

I never played tutu but a friend told me that they made Ajantis proficent in two handed weapons??? Iam i the only person that thought that was odd considering that he used sword and shield in the original and does anyone know if they are going to do that in enhanced edition?

The_New_Romance

I hope not, it would be quite strange.

Corvino

I think he comes with 2-handed sword proficiency as a start in EasyTutu. Wasn't my cup of tea, especially when he was competing with Minsc for gear.

SirBuliwyf

I hope he stays Sword and Shield. There's only room for one two hander Paladin in my party.

byrne20

My thoughts exactly.

Lemernis

All this is about 4 dizzying years old in my brain now, but I distinctly recall there's a mod that allows you edit NPCs weapons profs. (Did the Shadowkeeper game editor also do this?)

Anyway, I also prefer to leave Ajantis as is, with Sword and Shield.

SirBuliwyf

Yeah shadow keeper pretty much let you change every detail regarding a character's abilities. This includes stats, spells, proficiencies, inventory etc...

Son_of_Imoen

Lemernis said:

All this is about 4 dizzying years old in my brain now, but I distinctly recall there's a mod that allows you edit NPCs weapons profs. (Did the Shadowkeeper game editor also do this?)

There's more than one. At least 3 mods on Gibberlings3 that offer the option to tweak NPC skills:

easiest is the Allow player to choose NPC proficiencies and skills component of Sword Coast Stratagems.

BG2 Tweaks (also works on Tutu) component TOB style NPC's makes you pick points from a certain starting level onwards (giving control not of their starting situation, but control of their progress beyond the first few levels) .

Most extensive, given even the option to change classes, is the Level 1 NPC's mod.

Space_hamster

Dual wielding seems kind of cheesy and overpowering for BG1

SirBuliwyf

not necessarily... Swish.. swish.. swish..

Corvino

@space_hamster Dual wielding can be useful in BG1 - but you won't have many proficiency points to spread around. A starting warrior class gets 4 pips iirc, so either 3 in DW for -2 thac0 offhand an 1 in your chosen weapon or 2 in DW (-4 thac0 offhand) and 2 in your chosen weapon. You pretty much need to commit totally to 1 weapon type to use DW in BG1.

Rangers with their 2 free points are a different matter though.

byrne20

Wow when people start talking about mods iam well out of my depth lol

Cheesebelly

@Corvino : I guess it would make sense that a Ranger gets a point in Two Weapon style at level 4 and 8, for example. Starting up with 2 would be ridiculously overpowered.

Corvino

@cheesebelly I guess this sort of thing was never considered back when BG2 was first made. Who would have thought that eventually BG1 would have to be rebalanced around a new engine 10 years ago?

Your post makes complete sense, but maybe they should start with 1 in DW style and gain a point at level 4. That way they'll start with some benefit, and get a good return for putting a further 1 point into DW style at character creation.

Tanthalas

@Cheesebelly

Rangers really don't have much going for them at low levels (not that they have much going for them at high levels).

Mornmagor

The only thing rangers have going for them, is that if they dual or multiclass to a cleric, they get druid spells as well (ironskins) which makes them efficient tanks.

Of course, it's a bug, they should not get druid spells above 3rd level through the cleric class but whatever.

beerflavour

Actually Ajantis is in the area directly north of the friendly arm inn. If you had him join very early (say level 1 or level 2) then you had lots of opportunity to make him proficient with your weapons of choice.

byrne20

@beerflavour
Yeah your right. you get him at level 2. but with the pretty low level cap in the game i think it would not be possible to go for the sword and shield weapons style to if they make him proficent in two handed weapon style. But they hav slightly increased the level cap in the game i think.

Samiel

@byrne20 do you happen to know what the new level cap is? Has it been posted anywhere yet?

Ward

Tutu makes him proficient in 2H yes.

byrne20

@samiel to be honest iam not to sure. probably only a few levels higher

Alparon

Double wielding Paladin.... not cool... But double wielding should be in BGEE

Tom23

Keep ajantis as sword and shield makes a good bitch lol

rodneyandsteptoe

SirBuliwyf said:

I hope he stays Sword and Shield. There's only room for one two hander Paladin in my party.

I never used Ajantis in BG due to the reason above - all of the two handed swords and staffs were mine!

Roller12

Ajantis actually uses "Large swords" proficiency in BG1, which is both long swords and two handed weapons. And since his avatar portrait is holding a two handed sword, its really no wonder he uses two handed weapons in the remake. That Carsomyr paladin look and all. Although i always gave him hammers.

byrne20

I always saw him as more of a Bastard sword user. still a pretty big sword but that way he still had a shield

Dragonspear

Thats one of many things that has bothered me about Tutu. That and finding out that Kagain and Khalid BOTH had proficiency in dual wield. They both serve one purpose. Heavy armor and having their necks stuck out in front of everyone else. Especially my buddy Kagain.

Roller12

BG2tweaks can restore BG1 prof system for total conversions like BGTrilogy. I guess it will work for BGEE too.

in fact even it has an option to keep both original proficiencies AND keep weapon styles in. Which is pretty cool. So Ajantis can have "Large Swords" prof with "2h weapon style", or "shield&sword".

Quartz

Lol, I've never even tried TuTu. No point now, either, yay!

I agree that Ajantis should stay as a Sword and Shield guy. I think his Blunt Weapons proficiency is retarded though. Wouldn't mind that leaving.

Schneidend

SirBuliwyf said:

I hope he stays Sword and Shield. There's only room for one two hander Paladin in my party.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like to wield the same weapons as his party members. Even in Mass Effect, I always have Shepard use different guns.

Xavioria

Ajantis reminds me of Anomen, especially with the BG1 NPC project. He was Anomen without the constant whining. I just wish that after I ported to bg2, I could say to Anomen... "you remind me of this paladin I used to date"