I always changed the proficiencies in TuTu back to what they closely resemble in Vanilla BG1. Regardless of the sense it makes. For example, if memory serves, Khalid is 2 Large sword, 1 axe and 1 bow in Vanilla BG1. TuTu changed him to be a dual wielder of bastard swords. I hated that. So I usually use Shadowkeeper to change him back to 2 long sword (bastard sword, and its equivalent size, doesn't seem to fit Khalid to me), 1 axe and 1 long bow.
For me, it makes the game a bit more fun to closely resemble to original proficiencies. So for Ajantis, though I haven't taken him in my TuTu games yet, I would likely change him from two handed back to long sword or bastard sword.
I played the Ajantis romance from bg1 NPC project, and assuming that he was written correctly (there are terrific writers over there so I assume he was) then I would definitely give ajantis' naïveté as the same as Anomen's and his "Justice is paramount attitude" as well. However Anomen had this whole "I'm going to ask your opinion then scoff at you when I don't like it" perspective. I definitely caught myself saying, "Well screw you, then" at the computer a few times.
Ajantis seemed much more like a paladin and fighter of good though, and he was a bit more respectful. The fights between him and Xan were wonderful because of Ajantis being brought to his knees all the time by elven logic.
I kind of wished Keldorn himself came to investigate the Iron Crisis instead of sending a squire Paladin. Ajantis is a cool guy, but lacks the level of wisdom and insight Keldorn has. As for Anomen and his attitude, I cannot imagine him being anything close to a Paladin.
Theres only one thing I have to say about Ajantis. I don't like him as a party member. *add him to the party, take his armor and his pretty cool purple helmet.....kill him*
@CCarluNN well you can't possibly expect Ajantis (who IS a squire and a fraction of Keldorn's age) to be as wise or adept as Keldorn is. Granted, I don't like the goody goody aspect of paladins, because I find them to be very intolerant, but that is a bit of a deviated comment....
@xavioria don't act like you don't do it too. 1 guy, 1 purple helmet v.s. group of badass's = YOU TAKE THAT FUCKING PURPLE HELMET. I mean if i'm not adding him to my group might as well score some xp and some gear. I guarantee im not the only one who does it. And i play a neutral group so this isn't like an evil thing i do constantly.
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@Xavioria, Ajantis is one of my favorite npc's from BG1, especiallly with the NPC Project.
If you take his helm off, he has flowing, long blonde hair, a bit like a Fabio wannabe, and he has his "Helm, yeah!" (i.e. "Hell, yeah!") battle cry. He is a young stud, jock, or any other variation of that that a person might be attracted to.
He is your Anomen until-you -can-actually-get-to-BG2-and-get-the-real-Anomen.
Everybody here knows, I assume, that there is a European mod out there that erases the "aww, shoot" moment of having to kill this sexy guy from BG2, and replaces it with a pretty good story mod that results in your having this blonde bombshell with you in SoA and ToB.
I wuv my AJ!
Since I usually can't get him like I want him in SoA and ToB, I usually just enjoy him in BG1, and then substitue my equally appealing boy-toy, Ano, once I get to SoA.
hmmm, i find ajantis a bit bland. anomen at least has some conflict and well defined character (which is consistent, despite him depending on your counsel. people seem to confuse "trust" or "insecurity" with lack of character or personality. or backbone.) and i respect that, even like.
ajantis on the other hand was completely predictable, had stereotypical reactions, wishes, responses etc. and i'm not saying anything about NPC mod. it is not question of the writing, but the character of NPC.
hmmm, i find ajantis a bit bland. anomen at least has some conflict and well defined character (which is consistent, despite him depending on your counsel. people seem to confuse "trust" or "insecurity" with lack of character or personality. or backbone.) and i respect that, even like.
ajantis on the other hand was completely predictable, had stereotypical reactions, wishes, responses etc. and i'm not saying anything about NPC mod. it is not question of the writing, but the character of NPC.
What do you mean? He was totally rounded, having vastly insightful feelings about different locations.
"This forest has a sense of evil about it." "This dungeon has a sense of evil about it." "This city has a sense of evil about it."
Playing the game for the first time at the age of 10, I had yet to understand that Helm was a diety. I naturally thought that Ajantis worshipped his own helmet. I even took it from him to see if he would get angry about it.
Oh damn, totally forgot about that fancy purple helm mr. Ajantis has! (as for his evil insightful messages, I bet he could easily be called A. Rant - is or something)
I think I gave him clubs the first time I played the game with him though? Kind of a waste considering he's (quite sadly) the NPC with the most attribute points (a whooping 88 no less!) - which is no excuse for an overall weakish warrior (what's his weakspot again? Constitution or dexterity, can't recall)
@Cheesebelly His Dex sucks (13 I believe), he has a 17 Strength and 16 Constitution. You give him Gauntlets of Dexterity and he's fantastic. Overall weakish warrior, heck no.
Sadly weaker than Yeslick, Kagain, Coran, Kivan, Minsc, hell, even Monty is better >.< And he's definitely incomparable to his older colleague Keldorn from BG2! I mean, 17 strength is certainly nice, but for a low dexterity you at least require a super STR or CON, something which he has neither. Good as a swordsman, but that's where it stops. In other fields the above mentioned NPCs *are* theoretically speaking much better.
You say Monty's better as if it's surprising ... Montaron is beast.
Anyway:
Ajantis - 17/13/16 - Great Strength, good Con, bad Dex. Coran - 14/20/12 - Epic Dex, okay Strength, bad Con. Jaheira - 15/14/17 - Great Con, meh Dex, meh Strength Kagain - 16/12/20 - Epic Con, okay Strength, bad Dex. Khalid - 15/16/17 - Great Con, good Dex, okay Strength. Kivan - 18-12/17/14 - Awesome Strength, great Dex, meh Con. Minsc - 18-93/15/15 - Epic Strength, good Dex, good Con. Montaron - 16/17/15 - Good Strength, great Dex, good Con. Shar-Teel - 18-58/17/9 - Awesome Strength, great Dex, bad Con. Yeslick - 15/12/17 - Great Con, okay Strength, bad Dex.
Your claims that Ajantis is "weaker" sucks. He's pretty well on-par with everyone else ... also did you seriously say Yeslick is better? Err he has one better Constitution point, worse Strength and worse Dexterity (not that it matters). He gets less HP due to being multi-classed. The reason Yeslick is still viable despite kinda bad stats is he is a Fighter/Cleric which is an awesome multi-class, and his dwarven saving throws.
My point is with the table I have presented: They are all balanced. BG1 was awesome at this. You had a lot of pretty decent fighters, and anyone who *wasn't* on-par purely by stats, was still totally viable due to being a multi-class (Yeslick, Jaheira, Coran. Montaron is viable with or without multi-class, he's totally awesome).
Ajantis' stats are good, and even if they weren't he has Paladin abilities. You can't overlook mass amounts of Protection from Evil ... -2 AC any time you want is awesome.
This is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, but the way you expressed yourself here made me laugh very hard. Please have my insightfuls, @Quartz .
@Quartz I agree with you dude. Ajantis is awesome in my books. Any guy that has the balls to dress in full armour then wear a purple helm in to battle is worth having in my party lol
@CCarluNN well you can't possibly expect Ajantis (who IS a squire and a fraction of Keldorn's age) to be as wise or adept as Keldorn is. Granted, I don't like the goody goody aspect of paladins, because I find them to be very intolerant, but that is a bit of a deviated comment....
I've heard that plenty of times from people, and have always found that odd, but I think that's a flaw in how paladin's have been presented. At least in 2nd Edition D&D, a paladin requires a 17 Charisma which is approaching the sublime. I've always imagined a paladin as a combination of Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman, Peter Cushing, and Simon Belmont, all in one, awesome character.
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For me, it makes the game a bit more fun to closely resemble to original proficiencies. So for Ajantis, though I haven't taken him in my TuTu games yet, I would likely change him from two handed back to long sword or bastard sword.
Not sure it will work with BG:EE, but I think it will (Works with my HEAVILY modified BGT)
http://www.mud-master.com/shadowkeeper/Home.html
Must admit I only used it for changing proficiences when I couldn't decide what weapon to use.
Lol Ajantis definately whines less than Anomen. I wasn't a big fan of Anomen lol
Ajantis seemed much more like a paladin and fighter of good though, and he was a bit more respectful. The fights between him and Xan were wonderful because of Ajantis being brought to his knees all the time by elven logic.
@Cloakanddagger wow... that's is just MORBID- ly obese!!!
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If you take his helm off, he has flowing, long blonde hair, a bit like a Fabio wannabe, and he has his "Helm, yeah!" (i.e. "Hell, yeah!") battle cry. He is a young stud, jock, or any other variation of that that a person might be attracted to.
He is your Anomen until-you -can-actually-get-to-BG2-and-get-the-real-Anomen.
Everybody here knows, I assume, that there is a European mod out there that erases the "aww, shoot" moment of having to kill this sexy guy from BG2, and replaces it with a pretty good story mod that results in your having this blonde bombshell with you in SoA and ToB.
I wuv my AJ!
Since I usually can't get him like I want him in SoA and ToB, I usually just enjoy him in BG1, and then substitue my equally appealing boy-toy, Ano, once I get to SoA.
ajantis on the other hand was completely predictable, had stereotypical reactions, wishes, responses etc. and i'm not saying anything about NPC mod. it is not question of the writing, but the character of NPC.
"This forest has a sense of evil about it."
"This dungeon has a sense of evil about it."
"This city has a sense of evil about it."
See?
I think I gave him clubs the first time I played the game with him though? Kind of a waste considering he's (quite sadly) the NPC with the most attribute points (a whooping 88 no less!) - which is no excuse for an overall weakish warrior (what's his weakspot again? Constitution or dexterity, can't recall)
And he's definitely incomparable to his older colleague Keldorn from BG2!
I mean, 17 strength is certainly nice, but for a low dexterity you at least require a super STR or CON, something which he has neither. Good as a swordsman, but that's where it stops. In other fields the above mentioned NPCs *are* theoretically speaking much better.
Anyway:
Ajantis - 17/13/16 - Great Strength, good Con, bad Dex.
Coran - 14/20/12 - Epic Dex, okay Strength, bad Con.
Jaheira - 15/14/17 - Great Con, meh Dex, meh Strength
Kagain - 16/12/20 - Epic Con, okay Strength, bad Dex.
Khalid - 15/16/17 - Great Con, good Dex, okay Strength.
Kivan - 18-12/17/14 - Awesome Strength, great Dex, meh Con.
Minsc - 18-93/15/15 - Epic Strength, good Dex, good Con.
Montaron - 16/17/15 - Good Strength, great Dex, good Con.
Shar-Teel - 18-58/17/9 - Awesome Strength, great Dex, bad Con.
Yeslick - 15/12/17 - Great Con, okay Strength, bad Dex.
Your claims that Ajantis is "weaker" sucks. He's pretty well on-par with everyone else ... also did you seriously say Yeslick is better? Err he has one better Constitution point, worse Strength and worse Dexterity (not that it matters). He gets less HP due to being multi-classed. The reason Yeslick is still viable despite kinda bad stats is he is a Fighter/Cleric which is an awesome multi-class, and his dwarven saving throws.
My point is with the table I have presented: They are all balanced. BG1 was awesome at this. You had a lot of pretty decent fighters, and anyone who *wasn't* on-par purely by stats, was still totally viable due to being a multi-class (Yeslick, Jaheira, Coran. Montaron is viable with or without multi-class, he's totally awesome).
Ajantis' stats are good, and even if they weren't he has Paladin abilities. You can't overlook mass amounts of Protection from Evil ... -2 AC any time you want is awesome.