Killing Drizzt without Cheese

Iecerint

How do I do it?

I assumed it would be trivial-ish by endgame, but he basically kills everyone in one hit and I hit him maybe once for 5 damage during the course of all of that. He saves to all spells that are savable, mostly.

Is it just a matter of resets, or is there a win-button, where "win-button" does not mean "surround him with removed party members to trap him, then sling him to death."

the_spyder

With the greatest respect, there are a bunch of threads on this topic already. Would politely suggest some research before starting yet another one.

ajwz

Potions

secretmantra

There is an inherent logical fallacy in this thread.

Lemernis

the_spyder said:

With the greatest respect, there are a bunch of threads on this topic already. Would politely suggest some research before starting yet another one.

To be fair, the Vanilla forum search function is not very good. Here's a search of our forum for "kill Drizzt" using the search workaround.

Mathmick

Haste + Ranged kiting works if you have any capacity to micro whatsoever.

stygga

Try tanking with your mages. He's gonna hit you no matter what, so no need to tank with a fighter. Tank with a stoneskin'd, mirror image'd mage with another of each spell on backup and enjoy.

TJ_Hooker

Equip party members with ranged weapons and keep him busy in melee with summons.

Iecerint

the_spyder said:

With the greatest respect, there are a bunch of threads on this topic already. Would politely suggest some research before starting yet another one.

I did a search, but the results were mainly a) summaries of cheesy win strategies in vanilla and hopes that they would be patched [threads from pre-release], b) candidate new cheesy strategies that are not really what I'd prefer to use [including those discussed in the OP], or c) nonspecific complaints about how EE Drizzt is "just as trivial" as vanilla Drizzt "if you know what you're doing," which aren't overly helpful.

secretmantra

Youtube is your friend:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baldur's+gate+kill+drizzt+&oq=kill+drizz&gs_l=youtube.3.1.0j0i5.621.3646.0.9142.10.9.0.0.0.0.361.1976.1j3j3j2.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.WDJ6muR46uI

kamuizin

the challenge in fact is killing Shandallar, Drizzt is a piece of cake in comparison, even with a protection from magic scroll, if you don't put him down in time, he will just escape.

SpaceInvader

Shandalar is even easier tbh...
Just use a Wand of Paralyzation and Magic Missile (spell or wand) to death.

ChildofBhaal599

According to one of our members whom I do not remember, remove level cap and summon a were bear in all seriousness, I don't know how to do it without cheese or modding

Aasimar069

potions of speed / haste / boots of speed on the bait character.

the selected will run around Drizzt, just out of his reach.

One or more (for faster results) archers load their bows with the best arrows they can (ie : arrow of piercing for the huge thaco bonus the offer).

=> Drizzt down at some point.

Is that cheesy ?

ChildofBhaal599

Aasimar069 said:

potions of speed / haste / boots of speed on the bait character.

the selected will run around Drizzt, just out of his reach.

One or more (for faster results) archers load their bows with the best arrows they can (ie : arrow of piercing for the huge thaco bonus the offer).

=> Drizzt down at some point.

Is that cheesy ?

Kiting is considered by many to be cheesy

LordVulture

Werebears are confirmed as official nemesis' (nemesi?) of Drizzt

Lord_Tansheron

LordVulture said:

Werebears are confirmed as official nemesis' (nemesi?) of Drizzt

Nemeses.

Also, there is no definitive answer to the question, because there is no definitive definition of what constitutes "cheese". There's been many threads on the topic, with a lot of heated discussion. Consult those.

karnor00

smeagolheart

Lord_Tansheron said:

LordVulture said:

Werebears are confirmed as official nemesis' (nemesi?) of Drizzt

Nemeses.

Also, there is no definitive answer to the question, because there is no definitive definition of what constitutes "cheese". There's been many threads on the topic, with a lot of heated discussion. Consult those.

Drizzt himself is inherently cheesy with godlike stats and he will hit any AC you can reach with a normal melee fighter pretty much every time. So to take him down you need to have a lot of hit points and be able to hit him enough so that he dies before you die if you expect to somehow melee him.

About magic, you can't really effectively cast magic on him directly because of his magic resistance. That leaves spells that bypass MR such as making him hit your fireshield and hurt himself.

There's a mod that makes drizzt himself less cheesy and more in line with his AD&D stats here because as I said Bioware back in the day decided to make Drizzt himself cheesy for BG1.

redline

Disclaimer: this might be cheesy.

I pulled it off yesterday with free action (Dorn with Spider's Bane) and spamming web (3 castings, I think). Drizzt's magic resistance is high, but not 100%, so once he finally got stuck I could poison him with Dorn's special ability. Once Dorn inevitably died, I slowed Drizzt down with wand-based summons and mirror image until the others could finish him off.

Again, might be cheesy by some definitions, but there was no kiting, removal of party members, prebuffs, etc (I even initiated combat in the first dialogue, rather than ambushing him post-gnolls), just stock spells/weapons and a willingness to accept inevitable party deaths without reloading, so my conscience was clean about it.

Oxford_Guy

It's much, much easier to just pickpocket him, of course, at least for his Scimitars, unless a) you really, really want his Mithril Chain Mail (it's great for fighter/thieves and cleric/thieves as gives no penalty to thieving); b) you want the XP from killing him; or c) you're looking for a challenge

Dexter

It seems that drizzt' damage per hit is just around 8-13, but he also deals +30 damage *if* you fail a saving throw, versus death iirc. So I had all my buffed fighters drink a couple potions of invulnerabilty to avoid that nasty extra damage and just melee him. He still hits every time, and I needed a lot of healing potions of course, but I killed him this way with Minsc, Dorn and my assassin/fighter charname at level7.
Poison (ability, bolts or arrows) works wonders on him.
I have SCS installed, so it may be different from vanilla drizzt

Iecerint

Yeah, no one has scimitar proficiency and CHARNAME is a Fighter/Thief, so it's mainly for a chain for CHARNAME.

Schneidend

Drizzt is ridiculously overpowered for essentially no reason in BG1. Any cheese you use to kill him is more than he deserves. It's sad to think that Bioware were such frothing Drizzt fanboys.

secretmantra

@Schneidend

It wasn't just Bioware. Drizzt was a tremendously popular character at that time. In this instance, Bioware was reflecting the tastes of their audience.

Schneidend

@secretmantra
I had no idea who Drizzt even was at the time. Now that I do, yeah he's pretty rad. But, he's just a guy. A high-level guy, certainly, but in most editions he's only 15 or 16th level. He should be no more powerful than Sarevok as far as AC and melee goes, and his MR should only be 50%, not 98% or whatever.

Oxford_Guy

Iecerint said:

Yeah, no one has scimitar proficiency and CHARNAME is a Fighter/Thief, so it's mainly for a chain for CHARNAME.

Safana and I think maybe one other NPC has scimitar proficiency in BGEE

Iecerint

I meant in my party:

CHARNAME
Kagain
Dorn
Viconia
Baeloth
Edwin

deltago

Oxford_Guy said:

Safana and I think maybe one other NPC has scimitar proficiency in BGEE

I give both Jaheira and Imoen a pip in scimitars so they can use one each.

AHF

secretmantra said:

@Schneidend

It wasn't just Bioware. Drizzt was a tremendously popular character at that time. In this instance, Bioware was reflecting the tastes of their audience.

I think he was the equivalent of a celebrity cameo and they just wanted to deter people from killing him for his equipment. Lots of the old school video games used to have instant death features for similar actions (I am thinking back in the King's Quest, Hero's Quest, etc. sort of era).

Schneidend

@AHF
It's still dumb. Drizzt should be powerful, but he shouldn't cheat. No NPC should be like that unless they're essential to the story, which should always be kept to a minimum.