I think you guys are blessed to have such a cool job, I would love to be part of something so creative. I know it probably gets stressful with deadlines and critics breathing down your neck 24/7 but take time to appreciate where you are and what you're doing. It's an amazing task to help create something timeless, that gives thousands of people joy. Thanks!
Please, don't EVER say this kind of details are "too much". Polishing the GUI is one of the most important thing EVER. That's the only part of the game you ALWAYS have on screen ! è_é
If you ask me - sorry TrentOster - the BGEE GUI is clearly not as good as it should be. It's not as poetic and well-drawn as original BG2 GUI. I really hope that BG2EE GUI will be as good if not better, as it would offend 13 years of "this is my favorite game" sentences in dinners. è_é
I mean wow, everytime I launch BG2 I'm still blown up by the sadness of the music of the main menu, the poetic lines of the main menu, the colors, like old paper, this two strange faces... This is f*cking hundred times better than the skull of the BG1 or the ToB menu, or all this stupid horror pics like diablo's...
BG2 had an artistic direction (IWD2 too in a different way) that is still, 13 years after, a main influence for me when I am directing games. Diablo 3 is child play, honnestly. Those who think D3 is beautiful isometric never entered in the Lathander temple in Athkatla, nor in Suldanessellar, nor in hundred of "WTF" areas in BG2 and BG2 ToB. When I want to play a beautiful isometric game with friends, I start a new IWD2 multiplayer campaign. I uninstalled D3 long ago.
So yes, if I launch BG2EE and I see the kind of graphical ugly glitches that TrentOster showed in the first post, believe me, I will write his name with my blood on a black diary and I will chase him through the nine hells and murder him slowly with a little spoon. è_é
That's how serious I am with GUI and I am NOT kidding. è_é
(Anyway, I'll probably murder him for BG3. There's no way it can lives up to my expectations. Sorry, Trent, you'll die in pain anyway.)
PS: oh by the way, I'm not against new content. I'm playing BGEE right now and the new content is really good. It's a little rough art-wisely (might deserve more details and polish), but still a very good quality and I like it ! Neera is as good (if not better) as all the best BG2 characters. I support you guys, continue the good work !
Please, don't EVER say this kind of details are "too much". Polishing the GUI is one of the most important thing EVER. That's the only part of the game you ALWAYS have on screen ! è_é
If you ask me - sorry TrentOster - the BGEE GUI is clearly not as good as it should be. It's not as poetic and well-drawn as original BG2 GUI. I really hope that BG2EE GUI will be as good if not better, as it would offend 13 years of "this is my favorite game" sentences in dinners. è_é
Just to point one thing out BG2 and BG1 use different styles. BG2 was more elvish in its style (due to much of the plot involving elves). BG1 incorporated stone a lot more and was more "dwarven" themed. If they'd done something more stylistic it just wouldn't have looked right given what BG1 looked like.
That's a nice way to say that BG1 was ugly - let's be honnest, it was, and it still is. The maps are terrible, the GUI was even more terrible before BGEE... Beside that, BG1 storytelling is boring and the plot is uninteresting and too simple (mostly because Sarevok is a braindead character). I've played hundreds of games better than BG1 to be honnest. Diablo 3 for example. Still I don't think I've played a lot of games better than Shadow of Amn. (arguably none)
So that's not dwarf-related, that's just a problem with BG1 being bad. And nothing could have changed that anyway, so BGEE does its job fine.
However, there's good "stone GUI" and there's bad ones. The stone GUI of BGEE is average. But I can't say it's good - it's not. The parts clips badly, a lot of parts are not smooth enough (you see lines of pixels), and most of the graphical assets are too rough. It's amateurish. The BG2EE GUI we see in the first post of this thread is not polished either - logical if we consider it's not the final version, but I hope the final version won't suffer the same problem as the BGEE one.
Else blood, black diary, spoon, and Trent Oster waking up upon a lava sea just to discover a hundred of myself disguised in Slayers, ready to jump on him. è_é
Of course not, but if your hair are content is perfect and your plumbing code is a mess doesn't that mean that you hired too many hairdressers scripters and not enough plumbers coders?
Yep. So recently we converted a scripter into a coder. One of the few hairdressers who know their way around a pipe wrench, @Avenger_TeamBG, author of GemRB.
Yep. So recently we converted a scripter into a coder. One of the few hairdressers who know their way around a pipe wrench, @Avenger_TeamBG, author of GemRB.
I had no idea that Legend was a part of the BGEE team.
So yes, if I launch BG2EE and I see the kind of graphical ugly glitches that TrentOster showed in the first post, believe me, I will write his name with my blood on a black diary and I will chase him through the nine hells and murder him slowly with a little spoon. è_é
That's how serious I am with GUI and I am NOT kidding. è_é
(Anyway, I'll probably murder him for BG3. There's no way it can lives up to my expectations. Sorry, Trent, you'll die in pain anyway.)
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Else blood, black diary, spoon, and Trent Oster waking up upon a lava sea just to discover a hundred of myself disguised in Slayers, ready to jump on him. è_é
@papy_silk You're new here, so this is only a warning, but it's the only one you're getting. The above quoted text is not an acceptable way to act on these forums--or anywhere on the internet. If you have criticisms, find a better way to make them known.
So yes, if I launch BG2EE and I see the kind of graphical ugly glitches that TrentOster showed in the first post, believe me, I will write his name with my blood on a black diary and I will chase him through the nine hells and murder him slowly with a little spoon. è_é
That's how serious I am with GUI and I am NOT kidding. è_é
(Anyway, I'll probably murder him for BG3. There's no way it can lives up to my expectations. Sorry, Trent, you'll die in pain anyway.)
Someone needs a puppy...
But for the puppy's sake, don't let them play with it without a chaperone present.
Just to point one thing out BG2 and BG1 use different styles. BG2 was more elvish in its style (due to much of the plot involving elves). BG1 incorporated stone a lot more and was more "dwarven" themed. If they'd done something more stylistic it just wouldn't have looked right given what BG1 looked like.
Let's hopa BG3 isn't halfling themed and only come out on 7" tablets and less.
(Or a fixed 1/4 of screen resolution located centered bottom and always hiding in the shadows.)
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If you ask me - sorry TrentOster - the BGEE GUI is clearly not as good as it should be. It's not as poetic and well-drawn as original BG2 GUI. I really hope that BG2EE GUI will be as good if not better, as it would offend 13 years of "this is my favorite game" sentences in dinners. è_é
I mean wow, everytime I launch BG2 I'm still blown up by the sadness of the music of the main menu, the poetic lines of the main menu, the colors, like old paper, this two strange faces... This is f*cking hundred times better than the skull of the BG1 or the ToB menu, or all this stupid horror pics like diablo's...
BG2 had an artistic direction (IWD2 too in a different way) that is still, 13 years after, a main influence for me when I am directing games. Diablo 3 is child play, honnestly. Those who think D3 is beautiful isometric never entered in the Lathander temple in Athkatla, nor in Suldanessellar, nor in hundred of "WTF" areas in BG2 and BG2 ToB. When I want to play a beautiful isometric game with friends, I start a new IWD2 multiplayer campaign. I uninstalled D3 long ago.
So yes, if I launch BG2EE and I see the kind of graphical ugly glitches that TrentOster showed in the first post, believe me, I will write his name with my blood on a black diary and I will chase him through the nine hells and murder him slowly with a little spoon. è_é
That's how serious I am with GUI and I am NOT kidding. è_é
(Anyway, I'll probably murder him for BG3. There's no way it can lives up to my expectations. Sorry, Trent, you'll die in pain anyway.)
PS: oh by the way, I'm not against new content. I'm playing BGEE right now and the new content is really good. It's a little rough art-wisely (might deserve more details and polish), but still a very good quality and I like it ! Neera is as good (if not better) as all the best BG2 characters. I support you guys, continue the good work !
So that's not dwarf-related, that's just a problem with BG1 being bad. And nothing could have changed that anyway, so BGEE does its job fine.
However, there's good "stone GUI" and there's bad ones. The stone GUI of BGEE is average. But I can't say it's good - it's not. The parts clips badly, a lot of parts are not smooth enough (you see lines of pixels), and most of the graphical assets are too rough. It's amateurish. The BG2EE GUI we see in the first post of this thread is not polished either - logical if we consider it's not the final version, but I hope the final version won't suffer the same problem as the BGEE one.
Else blood, black diary, spoon, and Trent Oster waking up upon a lava sea just to discover a hundred of myself disguised in Slayers, ready to jump on him. è_é
Yes they put in bugs too, we don't have to appreciate the bugs tho.
You're new here, so this is only a warning, but it's the only one you're getting. The above quoted text is not an acceptable way to act on these forums--or anywhere on the internet. If you have criticisms, find a better way to make them known.
But for the puppy's sake, don't let them play with it without a chaperone present.
(Or a fixed 1/4 of screen resolution located centered bottom and always hiding in the shadows.)