#7137 [DORN] - Cespenar BUG

Extasic

When i go to the Pocket Plane and try to talk to cespenar all he does is say the "ooo! shiny ones!" line and nothing happenes, no conversation window no nothing.
I tried talking to him with other party members and it workes but he won't talk to anyone but the main character.
Anyone have this issue?

Sheve

Getting the exact same thing.

Smilge

I did a playthrough from SoA and cespenar didn't have any problems. How far along in ToB are you? Did he talk to you before and now he won't, or have you not been able to talk to him for the whole game?

Extasic

@Gate70 there ya go, i hope you can figure this out.

Extasic

Yeah I'll do the rest myself, thank you!

Extasic

Yup, no mods whatsoever.

Eleassar

I had the same issue and I think it began after Cespenar had crafted the shadowdragonarmor(unmodded game). Unfortunately I don't have my saves any more.

etagloc

the shadowdragon armor was also the last thing i created

Troodon80

@Gate70, it's definitely a bug. #7137

@Eleassar, thanks for the information, I can replicate it with the Shadow Dragon Scale.

Smilge

Hmm yep, it seems the variables are messed up for both the shadow dragon scale and the silver dragon scales for cespenar. Basically, when you tell Cespenar to make something, it sets the "ItemMaker" variable to a number between 1 and 39 depending on the item he's making.

The Shadow Dragon and Silver Dragon scales were added with EE, and rather than continue this trend by putting them as variables 40 and 41, they made a new variable, "OHD_Cespy_Make", and used that. But you can't just leave ItemMaker where it was, because then Cespenar won't realize that he even made anything and just offer to look through your pack again instead of saying "Enjoy! Cespenar go back to cleaning..." . So they set ItemMaker to -1, just to get it out of the way.

The problem is, Cespenar looks for ItemMaker to be GREATER than 0 in order to say his "Enjoy! Cespenar go back to cleaning..." line, and for it to be exactly 0 for normal dialog. Since it's less than 0, he has no valid dialog options for you.

Good job finding this bug, I'm sure it will be an easy enough fix.

For now, as Gate70 mentioned, the fix for now would be to reset or remove the ItemMaker variable. This can be done with an editor or the console:

CLUAConsole: SetGlobal("ItemMaker", "GLOBAL", 0)

EnterHaerDalis

@Smilge thank you for this. Fixed the issue with that CLUA code

DetroitRedWings25

Ok Im computer illiterate and i too am unfortunatly a victim of this bug, I dont understand what i need to do to fix it, what files do i open and what text to i alter/add to fix it?

Avenger_teambg

DetroitRedWings25 said:

Ok Im computer illiterate and i too am unfortunatly a victim of this bug, I dont understand what i need to do to fix it, what files do i open and what text to i alter/add to fix it?

You don't need to change any files, just open the cheat console while in game (ctrl-space), and type in the line mentioned above.

Roanan

I took the

Shadow Dragon scales from Alorgoth's lackey

but when I took it to the Pocket Plane to have Cespenar craft with it, he stopped working right after the created item appeared in my inventory. Instead of saying "Enjoy!" and such, he simply breaks off the conversation. Clicking on him triggers his sound bites, but an actual dialogue does not open, rendering him useless thereafter.

Other notes:

- Found out this also happens with the normal version of said item created with

("SCALEB").

- Console-ing his creature code ("BOTSMITH") after the bug creates an identically bugged Cespenar.

- Saving and reloading after the bug does not fix it, but going back to before the item is crafted works fine.

- Crafting Vanilla items (I did Runehammer & Staff of the Ram) right before the bug did not glitch Cespenar.

- Resting, Using Ctrl+R on Cespenar, or Leaving the plane and returning do not fix the bug.

- You guys are awesome.

Aranthys

Check the workaround for known problems thread

Roanan

@Aranthys Already did and it wasn't there, or else I wouldn't have posted.

EDIT: Scrounged around some more, and it was mistakenly sent to the "Not an Issue" thread. Found here: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/25003/cespenar-bug. It is indeed a bug, but can be fixed via CLUAConsole: SetGlobal("ItemMaker", "GLOBAL", 0).

tgore

On a MAC and just tried the workaround in the console mode and Cespenar still not talking. Get the message "lua: call expression not a function"
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Any help would be appreciated.

tgore

OK - new at the modding. ***Be Sure To Put CLUAConsole: Before Any Commands***

I will now shuffle off embarrassed.....

SplasH

Got the same bug. Thankfully, I q-saved before talking to Cespenar. Guess i'll just drop this armor for now.

Naastriil

It worked for me as well
Thanks!

odschneider

I'm playing in multiplayer and I tried the CLUA fix but it didn't work for me. Any ideas?

CrevsDaak

@odschneider try with C:SetGlobal("ItemMaker","GLOBAL",0)

odschneider

Thanks CrevsDaak, but I'm still just getting "ooo! shiny ones!"

Gallowglass

Just run into the same issue, when asking Cespenar to make the Shadow Dragon Scale.

However, in spite of the detailed explanation of the faulty mechanism from @Smilge above (which implies that this issue ought to arise with either of the two new scale armors), I had previously had Cespenar make the Silver Dragon Scale and it *didn't* bug him out - he only bugs out when he makes the Shadow Dragon Scale.

bernardchu

Just get EEKeeper and edit your savegame.

Under Global Variables Tab, there is a variable called Itemmaker.
Those of you with Caspenar won't talk bug, the variable set as -1.
All you have to do is change that value to 0.

That should take care of the problem.