Skip to content

New Enhanced Edition DLC NPC 4 (What gender?)

13»

Comments

  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    I think you may have had very bad luck with women. Many dudes I know feel the same way at some point in their life, usually after a bout with the horrible disease of "unrequited love".

    Just know that not all chicks are like that, in fact "women usually" are not.
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477

    Well, even in medieval times, there were standards of some sort. There's a difference between a nobleman or commoner who just washes his clothes once in a while, and someone who doesn't.

    I wouldn't compare party boys to bards either. Party boys are stereotypically not the brightest guys, rather party than study and hold no power of any kind. A bard would more be like a musician or other artist who has influence on fans. To become a musician, he either has the natural talent (and discipline to make it his job) or he studied to gain the skills (i.e. playing an instrument better than a hobby musician).

    I'd also argue that "women usually" (if I buy into the theory that "most" of any given group behave in the same way) go for attractive party boys, if at all, not guys who simply party a lot, but are not physically appealing. If actual power - like political or financial power - comes into play, this may go out of the window, but to get that, the guy can't party all day; instead he'd work on his public image or financial success.

    There's a time when washing once a week or less was a norm in most of the European countries, on the other hand full-body having and constant bathing was a norm in Ancient Egypt, it really depends on the time and place.

    As much as there's natural talent for music so does exist a natural talent for seduction and those who lack it usually have to have a discipline to learn it. From my experience, women are very similar when it comes to seduction, being it intellectuals, "commoners" or high-social-status girls and so do men, exceptions exist though, people who chose celibate as a way of life for example.

    The main power of the so called party boy is his social status, truth is I probably didn't choose the best term as "party boy" is just too general.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    Maybe it's a generation thing. I'm 33 and for me, a "party boy" has the same social status as any other college kid. In adult life, as sad as it sounds, social status is measured by numbers - your income, your car, your house, your investments, your family. You get none of that simply by being a "party boy". You can inherit money or property and therefore have a bit of an advantage, but it's still no guarantee you'll be percieved as socially successful. Even if you inherit a fortune, if you just party it all away instead of having foresight and investment skills, it gets you nowhere long term.

    Someone who "parties" one way or another as an adult does not have a social status to attract romantic partners, unless they are rockstars or something. A party boy has the social status of the family outside school; he has no career yet, and that is what defines social status in adult life. So, a party boy does not have a "main power". He has no power at all.

    I agree people of either sex are often attracted to power, but power is not defined by schoolyard popularity based on "having fun" and "good looks". In adulthood, "stability" - secure income, successful career, ability to feed a family, similar goals in life - is a "main power" that attracts partners, and this can and often does count more than physical attractiveness. On the other hand, a physically attractive, powerful person may still not be considered as a partner if it comes with a mismatched personality and outlook on life.

    Not to play the "get off my yard" card, but I assume that you will learn adult relationships work quite different than what you currently experience.
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    I'd like to underline that I'm talking about seduction, not relationships, seduction works on a very base level, relationships are a different subject. The person you seduce doesn't have to know a single thing about your life but you can still have a high social status, this, from my experience, works in a similar way at every age.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    Seduction, as in "one night stand" then? Then my point from before still stands; this is purely about the physical appearance and "power" has no part in that. If you know nothing about the person, you don't know if they have any "power", so how would that influence your opinion? And a low charisma, bad hygiene, rude and not entirely sane guy would not be considered by most people he encounters, bhaalspawn or not. Because no-one would know about this power.
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    In that case, as had been said by @mylegbig, not many people would follow a low charisma, smelly rude insane son of God of Murder and a worshipper of Talos in the first place.

    Such character would be followed at most by Dorn and the two psychos we meet in the Gorion's death area. At least that's what I can conclude from my imagination.

    So I agree, these characteristics combined wouldn't make girls hit on you.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    "Following a leader" has nothing to do with "ability to seduce", so that's a completely different story. People will follow leaders if they think they have a good plan; this is entirely about power and usefulness and not about attractiveness at all. I seriously doubt people find their political leaders "hot", or their boss or commanding officer. They follow because the leader is competent (hopefully, for them) and possibly to work their way up to a better position/rank. If the same person wasn't their superior in some way and instead tried to seduce them, they'd very likely not go for it.

    Low charisma, rude, stinking, insane Priest of Talos bhaalspawn: evil NPCs follow because they want to utilize the power or gain own power through their association. They give a damn if this guy is attractive or nice; they get power and gold/magical items. That's all that matters. They don't neccessarily like the guy, they just like what they gain by associating with him.
  • Dragonfolk2000Dragonfolk2000 Member Posts: 388
    If we add another romanceable NPC then it should be someone for a female. If the NPC in question does NOT have a romance then I would expect more quest stuff for that character.

    To be perfectly honest, I'd like to see an NPC who is either one of the triple multi-classes or a neutral human fighter (or thief) whose stats are good enough to dual class him into anything. Tactically, this means we have a character who can fit into most parties and can be dual-classed to fill a role that needs to be filled.
Sign In or Register to comment.