Adalon's loot? (POSSIBLE SPOILER)
xzar_monty
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I have never played an evil character, because I think the whole game is designed for good or, at best, neutral characters. (There's very little evil that you can actually do without everything becoming ridiculous.)
So, I have never killed Adalon the silver dragon. My question: what kind of loot does she carry? Anything interesting? I know she must drop some silver dragon blood, because there's that guy in Umar Hills, but does she drop anything else?
So, I have never killed Adalon the silver dragon. My question: what kind of loot does she carry? Anything interesting? I know she must drop some silver dragon blood, because there's that guy in Umar Hills, but does she drop anything else?
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And her blood, of course... That blood, thanks to a quest, will be used to create an awesome human leather armor. Probably the best leather armor in the whole game.
Weird for a "game designed for good, or at best neutral, characters"...
The game does have the occasional evil item, some of which are really good, but the whole superstructure is geared towards good or neutral. If I were to play an evil character, I wouldn't give a damn about the problems in Trademeet or Umar Hills, for instance. I wouldn't want to free the slaves in the Copper Coronet, I would much rather take over and build my own slave empire. I would want to use my Bhaalspawn blood for power: take over the whole of Athkatla for a start. And so on. But the game doesn't let you do that.
In this regard I love and recommend the Adrian mod npc, an evil sorcerer. He's a former slave so he justifies taking down the CC business (otherwise I wouldn't do it either) and when quests proposed feel like a paladin's duty he reminds you to think about the gold first (Korgan does that a lot too). He also has banters with Beamdog NPCs!
If I were to play evil, I'd start by eliminating both the Shadow Thieves and Bodhi's guild for trying to manipulate me. But that's not possible if you want to get anywhere in the game.
Nobody in the party gets mad, she's infinitely easier in human size, and you get multiple strikes of Jan swinging Crom Faeyr with Belm and a full round after timestop ends while she tries to teleport to safety.
Or, y'know, just crank everyone up with buffs, let the enemy squad of drow whale on her a bit (helps to be packing invisibility), then rush in and attack her with everything you have to kill her before she can dimension door. That's what she gets for leading you into a drow ambush.
Evil: Double billing and getting away with it.
About Crom Faeyr how can you have it whithout getting in the underdark the Girdle of Frost Giant Strength and exiting the underdark to have it forged?
And silly me, I was thinking later on. It would probably have to be the dragon slaying blade instead at that point, wouldn't it?
"You know, I think this place would look prettier with 7 traps over here. Oh, look, I just killed a lich! What luck!"
Also I don't really feel remorse about metagaming, but the game is only trying to defend himself from 2 inherent limitations, the impossibility to change enemies tactics and to give them a real intelligence.
Somehow I feel that he is fair in his cheating and I feel less fair when I cheat or use metagame.
I really like how in Tactics Mod some low level enemies are spawned just before the real ones to absorb the damage of traps that have no reason to be set outside metagaming knowledge, and I think that Item Randomizer Mod is wanderfull both in avoiding long term metagame, choosing the order of the quests just for the items you can find, and in giving a new element of surprise to players that know everything about this game.
But there is nothing wrong in metagaming if you like to do it, I sometimes like and sometimes don't, but the reason is not feeling guilty about, is giving more or less challenge to my runs. Things like traps whith a party whitout thief, prebuffing before a battle or spells memorization have a different flavour if metagame is used or not.
or am I missing something?
With Adalon dead, it would follow that the eggs would never hatch.
What always irritates me about dead dragons is that at best they drop enough scales for a single set of armor. Adalon drops no scales at all. Does she plug her scales as some sort of beautification thing? Is she a nudist dragon?
The Enhanced Edition introduced both Silver Dragon Scales and Silver Dragon Scale armor, and Adalon continues to be naked.
Jaheira complains about evil deeds more than most good npcs
Probably a dozen hours of questing through the underdark and drow city, and some crappy 3rd tier peashooter as a result? My Monty Hall powergaming sensibilitys will not stand for this insult! Prepare to die goody-two-shoes dragon, I’ll craft that damn armour and hide it right back under the bed just to make a point!
it had some sense even if a not evil charname would probably not use an armor made at the cost of killing so many people.
i don't know if that mod is still available for EE.
Its there already
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/56567/mod-bgii-ee-unofficial-item-pack
The armor only works in ToB IIRC
imho only evil charnames should deal with a guy that proposes to slaughter innocent people as fist thing as you meet him in soa, and that is serving a demon.
not only good oriented charnames should be horrified at the perspective, but also neutral ones and probably even some evil ones.
Instead, in bg1, i usually complete his quest and in bg2 i complete the hexxat's quest.