#7524 [CORE] - Valygar's body.

DivineEternal1

I was in the beholder lair in the Underdark when the Elder Orb cast imprison on Valygar. When I used freedom on him and got him back not only were all of his items he had been carrying on the ground but his body was as well. Kinda strange to let Valygar carry his own body around.

CrevsDaak

LOL, I know why this happens! There is a variable that when you kill Valygar he drops his body, have you finished he Planar Sphere quest?

DivineEternal1

Nope, I haven't finished the Planar Sphere quest. I wanted to get Imoen as soon as possible so I went to rescue her as soon as I had my party of choice ready.

I'm also liking how Valygar didn't get turned into a Drow because I talked to Alduin after he got imprisoned. So right now he's walking through Ust Natha in all his human glory.

CrevsDaak

Well, not having finished the Planar Sphere quest is causing this, I'll summon @Gate70 to let him take a look.
Could you upload a saved game? The entire 00000 folder found in documents/Baldur's gate enhanced edition/save, zip/rar it and use the attach a file option under the comment box.

DivineEternal1

I played a bit past so I hope that doesn't affect anything.

CrevsDaak

Here it is, Valygar is now a Drow too. I couldn't been able to get to my computer with time to create the script to make him cast the spell, sorry I couldn't do this before.

Illydth

@CrevsDaak: Assumably, so long as the planar sphere is NOT completed Valygar should be dropping his own body when he dies?

Was it a flag you set CrevsDaak? If so what was the flag? I'd like to bug this.

CrevsDaak

@Illydth that's what I assumed, so this shoild be Not An Issue, if he perma dies you won't be able to do the quest so that happens.

I only transformated him into a Drow with a custom script (BS) to force cast DROW_TRANSFORMATION upon pressing D, the first thing that I thought.
The script looks like this

IF
             HotKey(D)
THEN
      Response #100
             ForceSpell(Myself,DROW_TRANSFORMATION)
END 

I didn't touch the body, it was on the ground but I didn't find important to destroy it/delete it.

DivineEternal1

Thanks for the edited save.

And yes, Valygar was kicked out of my party and I had to recruit him again. Wish I had kept a backup save for before I cast freedom...

booinyoureyes

I totally expected nude pics of Valygar

CrevsDaak

@booinyoureyes

booinyoureyes said:

I totally expected nude pics of Valygar

We are still waiting for the topless natives
edit: im joking

Illydth

@Gate70, @CrevsDaak: So 6113 may be involved (Imprisonment/Freedom removal from party) but we seem to have a broader issue here: If the planar sphere quest is incomplete, will Valygar continue to drop his body only on Imprison or any time he dies?

Or is it only on permanent (party removal) death? Obviously it happens on Imprisonment, but does it occur any time Valygar dies?

@LiamEsler: Next question of course is whether this is intentional or not. Argument says this is the "safe" way to ensure the planar sphere quest is never locked out...so this is a "not an issue". Other argument says that past a certain point, if Valygar dies / gets Gibbed he probably shouldn't be dropping his body...it is a bit unrealistic for Valygar to be carrying around his own body after all.

Not sure what you'd do about it of course...

LiamEsler

Mechanics should always take precedence over story. That said, if he is Mazed or Imprisoned, he should not drop his body.

Fix the double-Valygar issue by adding a block to baldur.bcs so that if the party has Valygar's body and Valygar is alive, the body is removed.

Illydth

I'll get a bug opened with it.

#7524 - C