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most powerful (deadliest) party possible

LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
edited February 2014 in General Discussion (Spoiler Warning!)
Okay, it's an old chestnut but what the heck:

Not your favorite party. The deadliest party you can assemble using any number of NPCs and one PC. The party as a well-oiled killing machine. For either BGEE or BG2EE. Who's in the lineup?
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  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    The problem is the metric, though. What do you mean by most powerful?
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited February 2014
    @Quartz I like that. Only real downside is no thief until chapter 4 and Coran only has 20 in traps, but the party can deal (e.g., tanks run through traps and later Coran uses potions for traps). Two mages is smart. The PC tanks alongside Kagain--and can heal the party. You've got the deadly archer duo of Coran and Kivan. Nice.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    FinneousPJ said:

    The problem is the metric, though. What do you mean by most powerful?

    Most badass at killing the enemy. :) Deadliest.

  • JLeeJLee Member Posts: 650
    Since ranged is so devastating in BG1, here's my attempt:
    Berserker
    Kivan (Comp. Bow +1)
    Coran (Dead Shot)
    Imoen>Mage (Short Bows)
    Yeslick (Slings)
    Shar Teel (XBow of Speed)
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    JLee said:

    Since ranged is so devastating in BG1, here's my attempt:
    Berserker
    Kivan (Comp. Bow +1)
    Coran (Dead Shot)
    Imoen>Mage (Short Bows)
    Yeslick (Slings)
    Shar Teel (XBow of Speed)

    I agree except PC should be Archer (duh?) and Kagain would replace Yeslick to be the meatshield.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited February 2014
    BGEE

    Charname: Half-orc barbarian
    Kivan
    Baeloth
    Edwin
    Minsc
    Dorn

    Forget clerics and druids! (and apparently thieves) :D
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  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited February 2014
    My deadliest party for BGEE:

    Half-orc Cleric/Thief
    Kagain
    Coran
    Kivan
    Imoen
    Edwin

    And this is mainly because bows and backstabbing are so powerful in BG1. The PC and Imoen backstab. The PC uses a quarterstaff (with 19 Str plus cleric buffs), starting with the staff +3 in Ulgoth's Beard and eventually the Staff of Striking. Imoen eventually uses the Dagger of Venom and Gauntlets of Ogre Strength. At least two enemy spellcasters in enemy parties will fall instantly to the thieves. Coran and Kivan mow down the enemy with their bows as Kagain takes point. Edwin casts disabling spells such as Blind, Sleep, Horror, Hold Person, Emotion: Hopelessness, and Chaos.
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  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    elminster said:

    BGEE

    Charname: Half-orc barbarian
    Kivan
    Baeloth
    Edwin
    Minsc
    Dorn

    Forget clerics and druids! :D

    Wow, love this one! Just load up on healing potions. That is badass.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    JLee said:

    Since ranged is so devastating in BG1, here's my attempt:
    Berserker
    Kivan (Comp. Bow +1)
    Coran (Dead Shot)
    Imoen>Mage (Short Bows)
    Yeslick (Slings)
    Shar Teel (XBow of Speed)

    Problem with Shar-Teel using the crossbow in EE is that she doesn't start with a prof in it.

    One day I'd like to try a PC Fighter who grandmasters in Crossbow and uses the Light Crossbow of Speed with Bolts of Biting. Hasted? The total damage would be insane with all that poison damage.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    edited February 2014
    The ultimate PC in BGEE might be Assassin 5 -> Fighter with **** in ranged weapon of your choice.

    Has anyone else noticed they fixed the bug where you could assign all your pips to one weapon when dualing INTO fighter?
  • SkaffenSkaffen Member Posts: 709
    BG2EE

    Sorcerer
    Korgan with Unyielding and Crom
    Rasaad
    Sarevok with Ravager
    Mazzy, optional Dorn as archer
    Edwin
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    For BG2:

    Fighter/Mage or Inquisitor PC
    Jaheira
    Anomen
    Imoen
    Jan Jansen
    Last spot: Sarevok, Rasaad or Haer'Dalis depending on personal preference

    Jahiera and Anomen are both very solid tanks with a side order of divine casting. Having both gives you a solid frontline and all the buffing and healing you could want. Taking Anomen rules out Keldorn because both need the Gauntlets of Dexterity to perform fully, so a PC Inquisitor makes sense. That or a Fighter/Mage because they're generally awesome.

    I choose Imoen as the main mage over Edwin or Neera because she gets a few extra HP and a bit of flexibility from her thief levels, though either of them could be substituted. Jan's a decent mage and a great thief with a dozen unique items. He also gets UAI and Spike trap, 'nuff said.

    The last spot is actually a fairly free choice. You've got 3 frontliners and 2 or 3 arcane casters sorted. Monks do get generally great so Rasaad is a consideration, Sarevok is Sarevok and Haer'Dalis is someone I've really underrated until recently. This could also be a rotating spot for NPC quests or a second Player character.
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    I think that I have another potential party for BG2, maybe it's the vanilla AI and not my party...
    Fighter PC dual-wielding Long and Bastard swords.
    Korgan (same weapons as @Skaffen said, he's killer).
    Dorn, with the Silver Sword and Ir'rekyeval later.
    Viconia, Sling of Erevard, sometimes loaded with magical bullets for more damage and more THAC0.
    Hexxat, either with Gesen's Shortbow or with Tuigan Bow+1.
    Neera, with the Crimson Dart+3, and the throwing dagger Firetooth+3 (when the patch comes, fix the STR applying on it).
    Dorn died several times (due low HP, the PC and Korgan have 19 CON each one, so... She (Valhalla, my Valkyrie PC has 171 HP XD), 90% of the reloads are because of Neera failing to learn a spell. I'm not counting when I'm looking for bugs, there I reloaded about a thousand or two thousand times.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited February 2014
    For BG2EE (which due to time constraints I haven't been able to play yet, but I will foolishly venture this anyway):

    Berserker
    Hexxat > Imoen
    Rasaad
    Korgan Keldorn
    Anomen
    Edwin
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  • SharGuidesMyHandSharGuidesMyHand Member Posts: 2,582
    For BG1, I'd probably go with...

    Kivan (tanking and archery)
    Yeslick (tanking and cleric spells)
    Coran (backup archer and lockpicking)
    Montaron (trapfinding and backup fighter/slinger)
    Edwin (mage)

    With that lineup, your charname might as well just pull up a chair and relax. ;-)

  • mumumomomumumomo Member Posts: 635
    Sorc char name + 5 dead NPC.
    You get to godlike power (level 18) as soon as possible. Once you are there, everything else is overkill.

    With living NPC :
    keldorn
    jaheira
    Jan
    Neera
    Edwin
    F/M or kensai/mage charname
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    BG1:

    Kagain with dex gauntlets as tank
    Kivan, bow
    Coran, bow
    Edwin
    dualed Shar-Teel; throwing daggers, next pip in crossbow
    half orc Cleric/Thief, quarterstaff
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    jackjack said:

    For a multiplayer game:
    6 tone deaf Bards, traveling across the Sword Coast, ravaging it with their off-key stylings, each butchering a different tune, singing over the top of each other in some sort of hellish choir.
    No one is safe.

    @jackjack that sounds more like "best role-playing parties", but it could be powerful... HORN OF BLASTING FTW!! Let the Horn of Silence die :)
  • abacusabacus Member Posts: 1,307
    Fighter/Mage
    Jan Janssen
    Neera
    Imoen
    Aerie
    Keldorn

    Pure dread
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    I honestly can't see a BG2 list that would not include Keldorn. His special abilities are excellent.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    booinyoureyes said:

    I honestly can't see a BG2 list that would not include Keldorn. His special abilities are excellent.

    Great observation, I agree. Consequently, I scratched Korgan in favor of Keldorn.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited February 2014
    For BG2EE weighing the pros and cons for Jaheira vs. Anomen in order to have a healer/tank... I'm thinking that overall I like priest spells a bit better than druid spells. Of course one could have a party that features both. But if you have to choose between one or the other, I mean.
  • SharShar Member Posts: 158
    BG1 i think it would be
    Archer or F/T Dwarf
    Coran
    Kagain
    Yeslick
    Baeloth
    Edwin

    This is shorty intensive party, shorty saves work well with insane scs. Good ranged potential, powerful magic attack. Somewhat lacking on the healing front but i dont really play clerics much.
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