#7612 [CORE] - Wrong HP number displayed for Multi-classes

CrevsDaak

Mage/Thieves get 4 HP each level instead of 5 HP, Fighter/Thieves (Fighter/Mages, Fighter/Mage/Thieves, Fighter/Druids, Fighter/Mage/Clerics, and Fighter/Clerics) get 10 HP instead of 8, 7, 9 or 6 HP, Cleric/Mages get 8 HP instead of 6 HP, Ranger/Clerics get 8 HP instead of 9 HP.
In BG1:EE they are working fine.

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80 @Dee any chance on getting this fixed?

Troodon80

@Dee, looks like 6690? That's for BG:EE and dual class, not BG2:EE or multiclass. New ticket?

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80 yes, new ticket, the tables used are those from normal classes, not like the BG:EE ones that are specifically for each multi-class.

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80‌ have you reported this?

Loub

It also seems to have screwed the HP calculations AFTER level 10 - for instance, Jaheira and Melons (Ranger/Cleric) are gaining only 1 hit point each warrior level when they should gain 1 at odd levels and 2 at even levels (like they did on BG1EE).
Not sure if this is a bug, but Aerie is also gaining 1 HP at each level of either cleric Or mage, when logic dictates that she should be gaining 1 at cleric and even mage levels and none at odd.

CrevsDaak

@Loub yes, exactly, it happens with every single multi-class.
Aerie should get 1 each level, not 2 as it says and gets, anyway (6 HP until 11 and then 1 HP).

Troodon80

Not yet. I'm trying to find out what is actually happening. I rolled a Mage/Thief with all 10 stats, just to make sure there were no bonuses being applied. I should be getting +5 HP per level, but instead I am getting +3 (not the +4 you reported), so I need to dig. Advancing two levels (one in mage and one in thief), I got +5; which effectivly means that I am either getting +2.5 (or rounded up) per individual level, or I'm getting +5 per level but only if advancing at the same rate. Which doesn't really make any sense.

I'll need to test to ensure the numbers are correct for each class that you have mentioned.

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80 test with a Fighter/Mage. And Fighter/Thief, etc
Also, look at the tables with NI, it is CLASHP IIRC

Loub

CrevsDaak said:

@Loub yes, exactly, it happens with every single multi-class.
Aerie should get 1 each level, not 2 as it says and gets, anyway (6 HP until 11 and then 1 HP).

I think that the reason it happens is that the game adds a minimum of 1 HP per level, but the thing is it counts each multiclass level from 2/3 classes as a distinct level, which it isn't - so it may be an engine limitation (the same also happens with 3 con mages, who will always gain at least 1 hp, even if they rolled one in the die and as such should not be getting anything).

Troodon80

Hm. After doing some testing between the two games (BG:EE and BG2:EE), the level-up behaviour is exactly the same. Starting at level 1 and adding XP to get to levels 2 and 3, the character gets +8 HP in both games.

The difference is in the character record screen, which states +5 and +4 for BG:EE and BG2:EE respectfully, that is reported as #7612. It certainly looks like there is something iffy going on here aside from that, but unless I know what then there is little point in reporting it. I would need to know how the HP is calculated, as per individual class level-up, both (in the case of two classes) classes levelling up, or a hybrid whereby half is given when an individual class levels up. It appears to be the latter, but would require more in-depth testing (or have one of the Team state how it is worked out).

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80‌ In BG:EE, the multi-classes have thier single classes HP summed, and then divided by two, so a Mage/Thief gets (6+4) : 2 = 5, Fighter/Mages get (10+4) : 2 = 7, etc.
In BG2:EE, a Fighter/Mage uses the Fighter HP Table instead of it's own Multi-Class table, so they get 3 HP more each level and then 1 HP more each level after level 10.

Here, he's level one in both classes, HP is 7, Normal Difficulty. Here I am giving 10.000 XP to a Fighter/Mage, so he reaches level 3 in both classes, BG:EE, he gets 21 HP, which is correct. Here I give him 750.000 XP, enough to pass some more levels, I get 66 HP correctly. Then I go to BG2:EE, I give the same amount of XP to level up... But I get the +10 per lvl message in the Record/Inventory screen, but I gain the correct HP. Then I go and take a look to the HPCLASS.2DA.

 BG:EE
FIGHTER              HPWAR      
BERSERKER            HPWAR      
WIZARD_SLAYER        HPWAR      
KENSAI               HPWAR      
DWARVEN_DEFENDER     HPBARB      
RANGER               HPWAR     
ARCHER               HPWAR     
STALKER              HPWAR     
BEAST_MASTER         HPWAR   
PALADIN              HPWAR      
CAVALIER             HPWAR      
INQUISITOR           HPWAR      
UNDEAD_HUNTER        HPWAR      
BLACKGUARD           HPWAR         
CLERIC               HPPRS      
TALOS                HPPRS      
HELM                 HPPRS      
LATHANDER            HPPRS       
DRUID                HPPRS     
TOTEMIC_DRUID        HPPRS     
SHAPESHIFTER         HPPRS     
BEAST_FRIEND         HPPRS     
MAGE                 HPWIZ      
ABJURER              HPWIZ      
CONJURER             HPWIZ      
DIVINER              HPWIZ      
ENCHANTER            HPWIZ      
ILLUSIONIST          HPWIZ      
INVOKER              HPWIZ      
NECROMANCER          HPWIZ      
TRANSMUTER           HPWIZ      
WILDMAGE             HPWIZ      
THIEF                HPROG      
ASSASIN              HPROG      
BOUNTY_HUNTER        HPROG      
SWASHBUCKLER         HPROG      
SHADOWDANCER         HPROG      
BARD                 HPROG      
BLADE                HPROG      
JESTER               HPROG      
SKALD                HPROG      
SORCERER             HPWIZ     
DRAGON_DISCIPLE      HPDD     
MONK                 HPMONK     
DARK_MOON            HPMONK     
SUN_SOUL             HPMONK     
BARBARIAN            HPBARB      
FIGHTER_MAGE         HPFM      
FIGHTER_CLERIC       HPFC      
FIGHTER_THIEF        HPFT      
FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF   HPFMT     
MAGE_THIEF           HPMT     
CLERIC_MAGE          HPCM     
CLERIC_THIEF         HPCT     
FIGHTER_DRUID        HPFC     
FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC  HPFM     
CLERIC_RANGER        HPFC 

 BG2:EE
FIGHTER              HPWAR      
BERSERKER            HPWAR      
WIZARD_SLAYER        HPWAR      
KENSAI               HPWAR      
DWARVEN_DEFENDER     HPBARB      
RANGER               HPWAR     
ARCHER               HPWAR     
STALKER              HPWAR     
BEAST_MASTER         HPWAR   
PALADIN              HPWAR      
CAVALIER             HPWAR      
INQUISITOR           HPWAR      
UNDEAD_HUNTER        HPWAR      
BLACKGUARD           HPWAR         
CLERIC               HPPRS      
TALOS                HPPRS      
HELM                 HPPRS      
LATHANDER            HPPRS       
DRUID                HPPRS     
TOTEMIC_DRUID        HPPRS     
SHAPESHIFTER         HPPRS     
BEAST_FRIEND         HPPRS     
MAGE                 HPWIZ      
ABJURER              HPWIZ      
CONJURER             HPWIZ      
DIVINER              HPWIZ      
ENCHANTER            HPWIZ      
ILLUSIONIST          HPWIZ      
INVOKER              HPWIZ      
NECROMANCER          HPWIZ      
TRANSMUTER           HPWIZ      
WILDMAGE             HPWIZ      
THIEF                HPROG      
ASSASIN              HPROG      
BOUNTY_HUNTER        HPROG      
SWASHBUCKLER         HPROG      
SHADOWDANCER         HPROG      
BARD                 HPROG      
BLADE                HPROG      
JESTER               HPROG      
SKALD                HPROG      
SORCERER             HPWIZ     
DRAGON_DISCIPLE      HPDD     
MONK                 HPMONK     
DARK_MOON            HPMONK     
SUN_SOUL             HPMONK     
BARBARIAN            HPBARB      
FIGHTER_MAGE         HPWAR      
FIGHTER_CLERIC       HPWAR      
FIGHTER_THIEF        HPWAR      
FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF   HPWAR     
MAGE_THIEF           HPWIZ     
CLERIC_MAGE          HPPRS     
CLERIC_THIEF         HPPRS     
FIGHTER_DRUID        HPWAR     
FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC  HPWAR     
CLERIC_RANGER        HPPRS 

Troodon80

@CrevsDaak, as I said above, the difference between the character record is what I have reported. The characters still appear to get the same amount of HP; in a test I did, both characters had 18 HP at the same levels across both games. In your example, they both have 66. So it's just the character record screen that is incorrect. If that's the only thing wrong, I'll mark this topic as #7612.

If there's anything more to it, keep posting and I'll update.

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80 very well, looks like I mistook something but there was something weird also. I'll test something now... something very cool... 20 HP per level for each class! (just to test where's the problem).

CrevsDaak

Yeah, it works. NVM. (I was trying if the HPCLASS.2DA changes something.

EDIT: I does happen with Single classes. Crap. Looks like you can't change the Multi-classes' HP tables from HPCLASS.2DA.

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80‌: I haven't tried with a Multi-class before, now I try with a multi-class, want to know WHAT happens? ok, the HPCLASS does not work for Multi-classes, yes, just that, it don't works. Just use this two files, drop them in your override folder, try with 1) A vanilla fighter 2) A Mage Thief 3) a vanilla Cleric 4) a Cleric/Ranger. Download the files from here in case it's are not being displayed as a file attached to this post.

EDIT1: (to clarify a bit) The tables listed in HPCLASS.2DA just display the correct value in the Inventory/Record screen, so this should be updated since it confused me badly, it's easy, just copy a bunch of files from BG1:EE and done. So the Mage/Thief and the Cleric/Ranger will get their normal (probably hardcoded) HP but it displays a very misleading information. This does not happen with single classes nor dual-classes, those are changed correctly in all the ways (since they use single class HP tables).

EDIT2: I also renamed the OP accordingly to the issue you've reported (EDIT3) as 7612.

Troodon80

@CrevsDaak, I was almost certain of that when I reported since the same characters get the same HP in both games, regardless of the actual table. :-)

This also means that the values are still hardcoded and only externalised for the character record (which doesn't really make any sense, so that's probably a bug as well).

CrevsDaak

@Troodon80‌ well, I wasn't completely sure you knew this, plus I wasn't sure so I tried it. A bug for sure, since overriding single class HP table works.