Kangaxx proved to be difficult for my fighter-heavy party. Most other fights I either beat on my first or second try, but Kangaxx took many. Granted, I was trying to defeat him before I left Athkatla for the first time, and as always I treat even a single death as a failure, but still.
Story-wise, I found the hardest battle to be the fight against the evil taint within (I usually follow the good path throughout the game). So the toughest enemy isn't just Bhaal, but also myself and all those wacky challenges I conjured in my pocket plane. That ravager took many many heavy blows before it went down.
Story-wise, I found the hardest battle to be the fight against the evil taint within (I usually follow the good path throughout the game). So the toughest enemy isn't just Bhaal, but also myself and all those wacky challenges I conjured in my pocket plane. That ravager took many many heavy blows before it went down.
I commend you on a very Paladin/Cleric-like answer.
Definately the ascension/final battle. The first time I tried the mod, I died so many times i've lost count. I remember feeling like a badass as I killed improved bodhi and Irenicus again and thinking that was it. boy, was i in for a nasty surprise :-).
Ascension Abazigal is one mean mofo. Especially when your not prepared for how much damage this guy can dish out. Thank god for the wonderful spell called absolute immunity.... Especially if you have a fighter/mage.
In unmodded game Draconis by far. (well mostly because this battle lagged on my old computer like hell) And maybe those 4 dwarf-things in Durlag's Tower. But the most frustrating were the mind flayers when I was a beginner.
Ascension final battle- long battle against a team of enemies, really tough but rewarding. Abazigal is hard as well.
Actually, in unmodded it probably is Draconis which is a little sad, sub-boss shouldn't be the tough guy. Kangax and the twisted rune were probably both more difficult than vanilla Irenicus, and when I was new beholders and mind flayers both messed me up.
In BG1, I often ended up fighting the Doomsayer before I am really ready for it, which can be tough (not enough magical ammo to just kite), but I used to have the most difficulty with Karoug and the Wolfweres- so many reloads.
1. BG1/BGEE - mass of diseased gibberings in the first area when playing as a solo sorcerer was terryfing...
On the manual regarding Gibbering...
"They come screaming, jabbering, and howling out of the night. Dozens, maybe hundreds, of hunchbacked, naked humanoids swarming forward. They have no apparent thought of safety, subtlety, or strategy, leaving others with little hope of stopping their mass assault. Then, having come and killed, the gibberlings move on, seemingly randomly, back into the night. The first impression of gibberlings is of a writhing mass of fur and flesh in the distant moonlit darkness. The pandemonium is actually a mass of pale, hunchbacked humanoids, with pointed canine ears and black manes surrounding their hideous, grinning faces. Their black eyes shine with a maniacal gleam."
Felt so bloody true!
2. TOB - Ascension final battle - Sendai and Irenicus were super annoying with their project image/time stop and never knew Abagizal was such a hard hitting bastard in a human form...
Bg1 vanilla - nothing. Bg1 Scs - the assassin party that spawns on you randomly once you're level 5. The rest isn't so bad due to all the extra pots you get.
Bg1 vanilla - demogorgon (not that bad). Bg2 tactics - improved illych (OMFG no room for error in that fight!) Followed closely by improved irenicus then improved bohdi.
BG2 is hard to put a finger on, there's alot of epic battles that require tons of preparation and trial and error. Still on my first play through of IWD but I get sick of the endless battles with no rest stops to identity and get rid of your loot, been playing it periodically over the last like 8 months lol
BG2 is hard to put a finger on, there's alot of epic battles that require tons of preparation and trial and error. Still on my first play through of IWD but I get sick of the endless battles with no rest stops to identity and get rid of your loot, been playing it periodically over the last like 8 months lol
Agree entirely about Aec'Lectic. It's the only fight in either game that I just expect to take several tries on every play through.
There's several others I occasionally loose, but Aec' is the only one I see as somewhat unbalanced for when you get to it (at the level cap for BG).
Kangaxx is the hardest I can remember. I tried to tackle him before going after Imoen and it took me A LOT of reloads to finally kill him. I didn't use any cheesy tactics and if I remember correctly not even protection from undead or magic scrolls.
BG1 - uhm, let's say Sarevok. more precisely, Semaj. that dick has death spell on contingency, and I only had two multiclassed clerics, without doing TotSC first, so about 100k xp - no death ward. it's not exactly fun when even with magic resist potions, there's a 50/50 chance you die. though he quickly changed his ways when I run through TotSC, got the invisibility ring, then backstabbed him twice in a row, chunking the little asshole.
BG2 - Ravager. I was running a mage heavy party on insane, took me forever to develop the proper tactics for him. after I got it though (energy blades + PFMW, ignore little flying swords, let simulacrum deal with him in melee, he can't dispel those), I tore him to shreds.
IWD - no idea, it's easy to tear everything a new asshole in IWD. most annoying thing is probably dispelling traps and mages - whenever I saw dispel graphics pop up, everyone pretty much rushed the offending mage.
IWD2 - goddamn ramorhazes (is that the proper plural?) in battle squares. they have ridiculously high thac0 BAB, and hit like a goddamn truck. chambers in monastery was also annoying, and both of these were excruciatingly boring, because you're limited to a single character. everything else got torn to shreds in that game, even the oh so frightening iron golems/dragons had an unlucky meeting with 2 Mordenkainen's Swords (two sorcerers), with the general idea of "you've got magical resistance? that's so cute. resist this!" behind it.
The final battle in Ascension-TOB, wth core rules and no cheap tactics!
I'm fairly sure I still have nightmares about that battle.
Yeah, this is a bad one especially if you don't cheese it. I soloed it and to be honest it was a pure cheese Time Stop + Wish + lots of loads to get effects like Double length Time Stop + Improved Alacrity and "Make it as if the entire party has just rested a full night and re-memorized all their spell" between fights. Not that Balthazar cared.
@DinsdalePiranha In IWD1 soloing Belhifet on Heart of Fury is a tricky one. It is a very tactical fight with all these traps, flame strikes and the two golems. Even Shield of Lathander will not keep you alive long enough if you don't allocate your time properly.
Also the Lure Master and his spirits are tough in HoF.
BG1 - uhm, let's say Sarevok. more precisely, Semaj. that dick has death spell on contingency, and I only had two multiclassed clerics, without doing TotSC first, so about 100k xp - no death ward. it's not exactly fun when even with magic resist potions, there's a 50/50 chance you die. though he quickly changed his ways when I run through TotSC, got the invisibility ring, then backstabbed him twice in a row, chunking the little asshole.
Are you sure that this guy have the so called death spell on a vanilla game ? (not a BGT or BG Tutu one !!!).
I was never targeted by it, and he always was a joke to me (but an annoying joke because Sarevok was around at this time).
I know that on BGT Semaj use flesh to stone, and that's more annoying for every party member.
@Djimmy: I've always played with a three man party (FMT, ranger/cleric, cleric/illusionist), with those, it wasn't all that tricky, the most important thing was just to stand your ground, so you can't run onto traps and swallow a dispel. also, by that point it's quite easy to put together 100% magic resistance (in IWD, separate castings of the cleric spell magic resistance stack), so that's not really a problem - it still doesn't protect you against dispel traps though.
@Aasimar069: I... have no idea. this was with BGT 1.14, and there he had a death spell on contingency... and there wasn't any rejoicing.
might be dependent on difficulty though, lot of things in BG series are (the swords which spawn with ravager for example), I've played through the game on insane at that particular time.
For me, the hardest battle was either Draconis in ToB (Vanilla) or Baeloth in the Black Pits (took many tries to figure out just a particular spell was needed to take him down and to pin the cat to the wall).
Doing a fresh run with BGT and Ascension installed now for the first time, so I'm looking forward to see what the final battles are going to be like. It's gonna be interesting.
@Djimmy: I've always played with a three man party (FMT, ranger/cleric, cleric/illusionist), with those, it wasn't all that tricky, the most important thing was just to stand your ground, so you can't run onto traps and swallow a dispel. also, by that point it's quite easy to put together 100% magic resistance (in IWD, separate castings of the cleric spell magic resistance stack), so that's not really a problem - it still doesn't protect you against dispel traps though.
@Aasimar069: I... have no idea. this was with BGT 1.14, and there he had a death spell on contingency... and there wasn't any rejoicing.
might be dependent on difficulty though, lot of things in BG series are (the swords which spawn with ravager for example), I've played through the game on insane at that particular time.
No, in fact, I was playing in Core rules and they all got illegal spells in regard of what was designed in the Vanilla Game.
that's why I was quite eager to plat BG:EE because all fan mods have taken too much freedom compared with the original game.
I have to say, I'm finding the final battle to BG:EE be a bit of a bear. There have been some AI tweaks that mitigate cheese tactics that in the past made it a lot easier. I've only had a few gos at it yet, but I'm obviously going to have to devise a plan B.
I have just had a hell of a time with Aec'Lectic. I tried 8 times before I finally got him. And only Minsc and Imoen arent at the level cap... Good times tho, because I havent had a real challenge for the last 3-4 levels.
So probably Aec'Lectic in BG1 (havent tried the last fight yet tho). I always waited for chapter six before getting Firkraag, and I am too scared of Kangaxx to try beating him :P
NWN solo mage vs Desthir. He is an imba evil cleric with an undead army, and you arrive at the battle rather low on spells cuz of the bodaks in the lobby. You are locked in and can't ever rest because of monsters nearby. Perhaps you can use your recall item to rest and return, but I didn't try because that didn't fit the story.
Fortunately, cheese tactics can still work. Mostly I run away a lot and throw rocks at him like he's Noober. Takes an hour, but he eventually runs out of heals and HPs. Hardest battle I remember, but the battle eventually feels more tedious than cool. Op is looking for hard and cool, this isn't it, but it sure was memorable to be at last gasp for soooo long.
@Aristillius Yes it took some dead and reload to figure out Aec'Lectic's tricks. But the process of dying and re-strategy was fun. Makes you think, and few games these days attempt that.
BG1: Just finished my first run through of BG1 and it was definitely Aec'Lectic for me. Finally realized I had to kill all priests first. When I finally beat him, I immediately quick saved and promptly died within 2 seconds. I thought it was a bug! Blasted death gaze. Thank god Neera was still hasted. My last non-quicksave was a whiiiille back!
BG2: Only done one run through of BG2, no ToB, but doing the Twisted Rune or Firkraag straight up was probably the most difficult for me. I cast feeblemind on Firkraag and took him down so easily I felt I had to reload and do it properly. That was a wee bit tougher :O
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Firkraag was easy for me. I just cast improved Haste on the Slayer.
Try it with Super Firkraag
I commend you on a very Paladin/Cleric-like answer.
Ascension Abazigal is one mean mofo. Especially when your not prepared for how much damage this guy can dish out. Thank god for the wonderful spell called absolute immunity.... Especially if you have a fighter/mage.
Actually, in unmodded it probably is Draconis which is a little sad, sub-boss shouldn't be the tough guy. Kangax and the twisted rune were probably both more difficult than vanilla Irenicus, and when I was new beholders and mind flayers both messed me up.
In BG1, I often ended up fighting the Doomsayer before I am really ready for it, which can be tough (not enough magical ammo to just kite), but I used to have the most difficulty with Karoug and the Wolfweres- so many reloads.
On the manual regarding Gibbering...
"They come screaming, jabbering, and howling out of the night. Dozens, maybe
hundreds, of hunchbacked, naked humanoids swarming forward. They have no
apparent thought of safety, subtlety, or strategy, leaving others with little
hope of stopping their mass assault. Then, having come and killed, the
gibberlings move on, seemingly randomly, back into the night.
The first impression of gibberlings is of a writhing mass of fur and flesh in
the distant moonlit darkness. The pandemonium is actually a mass of pale,
hunchbacked humanoids, with pointed canine ears and black manes
surrounding their hideous, grinning faces. Their black eyes shine with a
maniacal gleam."
Felt so bloody true!
2. TOB - Ascension final battle - Sendai and Irenicus were super annoying with their project image/time stop and never knew Abagizal was such a hard hitting bastard in a human form...
Bg1 vanilla - demogorgon (not that bad). Bg2 tactics - improved illych (OMFG no room for error in that fight!) Followed closely by improved irenicus then improved bohdi.
Tactics + Scs = cockmeat sausage grinder!
BG2 is hard to put a finger on, there's alot of epic battles that require tons of preparation and trial and error. Still on my first play through of IWD but I get sick of the endless battles with no rest stops to identity and get rid of your loot, been playing it periodically over the last like 8 months lol
There's several others I occasionally loose, but Aec' is the only one I see as somewhat unbalanced for when you get to it (at the level cap for BG).
BG2 - Ravager. I was running a mage heavy party on insane, took me forever to develop the proper tactics for him. after I got it though (energy blades + PFMW, ignore little flying swords, let simulacrum deal with him in melee, he can't dispel those), I tore him to shreds.
IWD - no idea, it's easy to tear everything a new asshole in IWD. most annoying thing is probably dispelling traps and mages - whenever I saw dispel graphics pop up, everyone pretty much rushed the offending mage.
IWD2 - goddamn ramorhazes (is that the proper plural?) in battle squares. they have ridiculously high
thac0BAB, and hit like a goddamn truck. chambers in monastery was also annoying, and both of these were excruciatingly boring, because you're limited to a single character. everything else got torn to shreds in that game, even the oh so frightening iron golems/dragons had an unlucky meeting with 2 Mordenkainen's Swords (two sorcerers), with the general idea of "you've got magical resistance? that's so cute. resist this!" behind it.@DinsdalePiranha In IWD1 soloing Belhifet on Heart of Fury is a tricky one. It is a very tactical fight with all these traps, flame strikes and the two golems. Even Shield of Lathander will not keep you alive long enough if you don't allocate your time properly.
Also the Lure Master and his spirits are tough in HoF.
Are you sure that this guy have the so called death spell on a vanilla game ? (not a BGT or BG Tutu one !!!).
I was never targeted by it, and he always was a joke to me (but an annoying joke because Sarevok was around at this time).
I know that on BGT Semaj use flesh to stone, and that's more annoying for every party member.
@Aasimar069: I... have no idea. this was with BGT 1.14, and there he had a death spell on contingency... and there wasn't any rejoicing.
might be dependent on difficulty though, lot of things in BG series are (the swords which spawn with ravager for example), I've played through the game on insane at that particular time.
Doing a fresh run with BGT and Ascension installed now for the first time, so I'm looking forward to see what the final battles are going to be like. It's gonna be interesting.
No, in fact, I was playing in Core rules and they all got illegal spells in regard of what was designed in the Vanilla Game.
that's why I was quite eager to plat BG:EE because all fan mods have taken too much freedom compared with the original game.
So probably Aec'Lectic in BG1 (havent tried the last fight yet tho). I always waited for chapter six before getting Firkraag, and I am too scared of Kangaxx to try beating him :P
Fortunately, cheese tactics can still work. Mostly I run away a lot and throw rocks at him like he's Noober. Takes an hour, but he eventually runs out of heals and HPs. Hardest battle I remember, but the battle eventually feels more tedious than cool. Op is looking for hard and cool, this isn't it, but it sure was memorable to be at last gasp for soooo long.
@Aristillius Yes it took some dead and reload to figure out Aec'Lectic's tricks. But the process of dying and re-strategy was fun. Makes you think, and few games these days attempt that.
BG2: Only done one run through of BG2, no ToB, but doing the Twisted Rune or Firkraag straight up was probably the most difficult for me. I cast feeblemind on Firkraag and took him down so easily I felt I had to reload and do it properly. That was a wee bit tougher :O