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BG2 Boots of Speed: Should they haste or not?

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  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    elminster said:

    Gotural said:

    But what said bbear is 100% right and I can confirm it. My fighter specialized in two handed sword before level 7 had 3/2 Apr, and 2 with the boots. When he reached level 7 I expected him to get 5/2 Apr but instead he stayed at 2 Apr and removing the boots didn't change anything anymore.

    What is shown in the character sheet (or frankly in character animations) isn't necessarily reflective of what is actually happening in terms of APR. Look at for instance a fire salamander form (for avengers). It has the haste opcode active and its listed as having 1 apr but if you attack with it it gets a whole bunch of attack animations each round (but mechanically you only get 1 attack every 6 seconds with it).
    That looks really bad, by the way. It probably shouldn't have the haste effect on it at all until BG2:EE.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited May 2014
    Tresset said:

    elminster said:

    Gotural said:

    But what said bbear is 100% right and I can confirm it. My fighter specialized in two handed sword before level 7 had 3/2 Apr, and 2 with the boots. When he reached level 7 I expected him to get 5/2 Apr but instead he stayed at 2 Apr and removing the boots didn't change anything anymore.

    What is shown in the character sheet (or frankly in character animations) isn't necessarily reflective of what is actually happening in terms of APR. Look at for instance a fire salamander form (for avengers). It has the haste opcode active and its listed as having 1 apr but if you attack with it it gets a whole bunch of attack animations each round (but mechanically you only get 1 attack every 6 seconds with it).
    That looks really bad, by the way. It probably shouldn't have the haste effect on it at all until BG2:EE.
    Yea it looks bad particularly if you are using pause at end of round because you have a "round" (the "haste" makes rounds 3 seconds long) where you won't do any damage (first 3 second round you get your attack, second one you do nothing).
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    Yeah I will probably report that eventually. What is going on is that it is using a haste effect style that is set to 'movement rate only' (as opposed to 'normal' or 'improved') which is probably what the original boots of speed used if I understand CamDawg correctly. Another problem I notice with the salamander is that in BG2:EE it still uses the exact same syle haste as it uses in BG1:EE which looks just as bad and is also seriously underpowered for BG2 (probably blocks other hasting methods). I think I may suggest removing the haste effect from the BG1 version and switching the style of haste to normal in BG2.
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