Donald Trump thought it would be appropriate to host a guy that called Hillary a 'worthless bitch,' and our last President a 'subhuman mongrel' at the White House.
Ted Nugent , who has been accused of having sex with a 12-year-old, written a song about raping a 13-year-old and adopted a 17-year-old so that he could have sex with her without her parent's permission. He also apparently shat his pants to fail his physical and dodge the draft during the Vietnam War.
When Ted Nugent was 32 years old, he released the song “Jailbait.” Here’s a taste of the lyrics (written by him):
I don't get it.
So he has only been accused ? So in other words he is currently an innocent man who is merely offensive?
This sort of reminds me how the liberals and the mainstream media were so outraged about Trumps "grab em by the pussy" speech while everyone else around the world were just like "meh".
* Was it distasteful? Yes * Is it Tangible? No * Does it actually make a difference to anything related to Policy? No * Do people really care? Not really...
So from what I can see even if this Ted guy is the most distasteful person in the world... it's still just a insignificant dinner? Their are so many concerning issues the left can focus fire on that it completely bewilders me every time they decide to criticize POTUS over something trivial. Locker room banter, shoes on Easter, ketchup on steak, a Ted Nugent dinner...... not really important stuff imo
Donald Trump thought it would be appropriate to host a guy that called Hillary a 'worthless bitch,' and our last President a 'subhuman mongrel' at the White House.
Ted Nugent , who has been accused of having sex with a 12-year-old, written a song about raping a 13-year-old and adopted a 17-year-old so that he could have sex with her without her parent's permission. He also apparently shat his pants to fail his physical and dodge the draft during the Vietnam War.
When Ted Nugent was 32 years old, he released the song “Jailbait.” Here’s a taste of the lyrics (written by him):
I don't get it.
So he has only been accused ? So in other words he is currently an innocent man who is merely offensive?
This sort of reminds me how the liberals and the mainstream media were so outraged about Trumps "grab em by the pussy" speech while everyone else around the world were just like "meh".
* Was it distasteful? Yes * Is it Tangible? No * Does it actually make a difference to anything related to Policy? No * Do people really care? Not really...
So from what I can see even if this Ted guy is the most distasteful person in the world... it's still just a insignificant dinner? Their are so many concerning issues the left can focus fire on that it completely bewilders me every time they decide to criticize POTUS over something trivial. Locker room banter, shoes on Easter, ketchup on steak, a Ted Nugent dinner...... not really important stuff imo
Nothing about what he is saying about Nugent is "alleged", all you have to do is watch his VH1 Behind the Music and he'll ADMIT to most of what @smeagolheart posted.
Trump can't say no, sorry you can't bring a pedophilie to the White House?
Don't know, I'm not privy to whatever arrangement they had for Sarah palin to arrive.
Of course your posts are really transparent attacks on Trump that he personally hosted (misleadingly) some guy no one cared about.
Yep well he's a disgusting guy and Trump presumably has some say so, maybe a little, on who is allowed into the White House and whom he gets pictures taken with.
Yep well he's a disgusting guy and Trump presumably has some say so, maybe a little, on who is allowed into the White House and whom he gets pictures taken with.
Kind of like all those rappers Obama pictured himself with and there is alot of inflammatory material in their songs and their life.
Yep well he's a disgusting guy and Trump presumably has some say so, maybe a little, on who is allowed into the White House and whom he gets pictures taken with.
Kind of like all those rappers Obama pictured himself with and there is alot of inflammatory material in their songs and their life.
Did any of them tell Hillary and Obama to "suck on my machine gun" or call the first African-American President a "sub-human mongrel"?? Not in his songs mind you, but just as regular statements, so there is no "artistic license" excuse for Ted Nugent. Or maybe when talking about South Africa saying "My being there (South Africa) isn’t going to affect any political structure. Besides, apartheid isn’t that cut-and-dry. All men are not created equal."
By the way, if Barack Obama had let Beyonce and Jay-Z pose in front of a photo of Laura Bush with the clear intent of mocking her, we still wouldn't have stopped hearing about it in the media to this very day. Are these people 10 years old??
Did any of them tell Hillary and Obama to "suck on my machine gun" or call the first African-American President a "sub-human mongrel"?? Not in his songs mind you, but just as regular statements, so there is no "artistic license" excuse for Ted Nugent. Or maybe when talking about South Africa saying "My being there (South Africa) isn’t going to affect any political structure. Besides, apartheid isn’t that cut-and-dry. All men are not created equal."
Yes lol, lots of the rappers for Obama photo-shoot have actually been charged with assault.
Not exactly going to find squeeky clean photo-shoots of cultural music icons.
Did any of them tell Hillary and Obama to "suck on my machine gun" or call the first African-American President a "sub-human mongrel"?? Not in his songs mind you, but just as regular statements, so there is no "artistic license" excuse for Ted Nugent. Or maybe when talking about South Africa saying "My being there (South Africa) isn’t going to affect any political structure. Besides, apartheid isn’t that cut-and-dry. All men are not created equal."
Yes lol, lots of rappers rapping against Trump.
A rather large amount of Democrats, the Media and celebrities like to say or imply Trump is basically Hitler and his supporters are nazi's.
So on the 'Who had more crap flinged at them by media and government' I'd have to give that edge to Trump and his supporters.
I, For example, can't quite recall when Obama or Hillary rallygoers had to realistically fear for their life and get chased down on the streets.
I don't think the 'who was more of a victim' is going to work out in any political candidates favor but Trump here.
Trump himself told people at his rallies to PUNCH protesters in the crowd. On many, many occasions.
Was Snoop Dogg and his kill Trump music video part of the picture? The idea that the left has some moral authority in this regard is absurd. Extreme racism to whites is commonplace, accepted, and an everyday part of liberal media as well. How else can Salon publish things such as "white people must be stopped for the good of the planet" , "white fragility is real", "hell is comprised of fake-woke white people" this is just salon add in alternet and the others and you got yourself a full on left wing Daily Stormer
Ok, and Obama said to pull out a bigger gun when he spoke enthusiastically about brawling in Philadelphia in his campaign.
Selective outrage is selective.
Btw hunting down rallygoers is immoral, doesn't matter what Trump says.
You do realize rallygoers are by and large innocent people right?
Oh my god.....you know damn well that quote from Obama was an analogy, an analogy I have used in this thread many times. "Bringing a knife to a gun fight" is one of the most common turns of phrase in the world when discussing ANY competition. You know this. You are 100% aware it wasn't literal. And there is no way to take Trump's quotes at his rallies as anything BUT literal.
Oh my god.....you know damn well that quote from Obama was an analogy, an analogy I have used in this thread many times. "Bringing a knife to a gun fight" is one of the most common turns of phrase in the world when discussing ANY competition. You know this. You are 100% aware it wasn't literal. And there is no way to take Trump's quotes at his rallies as anything BUT literal.
You mean i should give Obama the benefit of the doubt, not exaggerate trivial crap and be sensible about things?
Yeh i agree, Unfortunately I don't see that applied for Trump.
Your just making my point for me.
Btw virtually every rally of Trump has a loudspeaker that says not to retaliate against protesters even if they do something, Trump was just being a showman at that time because everyone at that rally was getting pissed at the protesters disrupting his rally, he was probably annoyed too.
Was Snoop Dogg and his kill Trump music video part of the picture? The idea that the left has some moral authority in this regard is absurd. Extreme racism to whites is commonplace, accepted, and an everyday part of liberal media as well. How else can Salon publish things such as "white people must be stopped for the good of the planet" , "white fragility is real", "hell is comprised of fake-woke white people" this is just salon add in alternet and the others and you got yourself a full on left wing Daily Stormer
Well White Fragility is real, and I'd be happy to send anyone who wants a copy of the essay on it from the International Journal of Critical Pedagogy an email of it in it's entirety.
Was Snoop Dogg and his kill Trump music video part of the picture? The idea that the left has some moral authority in this regard is absurd. Extreme racism to whites is commonplace, accepted, and an everyday part of liberal media as well. How else can Salon publish things such as "white people must be stopped for the good of the planet" , "white fragility is real", "hell is comprised of fake-woke white people" this is just salon add in alternet and the others and you got yourself a full on left wing Daily Stormer
White Fragility sounds like some amazing click-bait, I almost imagine its a trolling article but these people are probably serious about this stuff.
Oh they mean every word. MTV engages in this stuff too with their "Dear White People" video that they since had to delete, this kinda hate is just casually thrown out there in left wing media. I'm not saying there is any connection to that and the recent terrorist in Fresno who targeted whites, but he was fan of The Young Turks and other left wing media so one must ask where this sort of rhetoric leads.
Oh my god.....you know damn well that quote from Obama was an analogy, an analogy I have used in this thread many times. "Bringing a knife to a gun fight" is one of the most common turns of phrase in the world when discussing ANY competition. You know this. You are 100% aware it wasn't literal. And there is no way to take Trump's quotes at his rallies as anything BUT literal.
You mean i should give Obama the benefit of the doubt, not exaggerate trivial crap and be sensible about things?
Yeh i agree, Unfortunately I don't see that applied for Trump.
Your just making my point for me.
Btw virtually every rally of Trump has a loudspeaker that says not to retaliate against protesters even if they do something, Trump was just being a showman at that time because everyone at that rally was getting pissed at the protesters disrupting his rally, he was probably annoyed too.
I would be as well.
"Knock the hell out of them" is being a showman?? You and other posters are CONSTANTLY talking about violence on the left and completely dismissing the fact that the man who is now President told his crowds to beat up protesters, some who were doing nothing but holding up signs (or not even that). He offered to pay for the legal bills of people who did so. This just proves the point I've made about a hundred times in this thread. That ANYTHING Trump says can be dismissed as a joke/showmanship/anything that gets him off the hook. There is nothing that doesn't have an automatic escape hatch, including inciting violence. According to these rules, there is no possible way to hold Donald Trump to account for anything ever.
He wasn't serious about something. He was serious about something. He was serious then but now he's not. He wasn't serious then but now he is. That promise wasn't meant to be taken literally. This was meant to be taken literally (until he doesn't do it). This was only metaphorical (until he does it). It was a joke. It was showmanship. It was a joke and showmanship but now it's serious........and on and on and on it will go.
There are far too many people in the "I back my candidate/politician all the time, no matter what" category these days. One must always be wary of such people as they will find a way to justify or excuse any behavior expressed by "their guy". I don't even trust the politicians for whom I did vote.
re: Paris. The IS always claims responsibility for such things even when they had absolutely nothing to do with it; investigators have not yet made a determination whether there were any such links between the shooter and that organization.
"Knock the hell out of them" is being a showman?? You and other posters are CONSTANTLY talking about violence on the left and completely dismissing the fact that the man who is now President told his crowds to beat up protesters, some who were doing nothing but holding up signs (or not even that). He offered to pay for the legal bills of people who did so. This just proves the point I've made about a hundred times in this thread. That ANYTHING Trump says can be dismissed as a joke/showmanship/anything that gets him off the hook. There is nothing that doesn't have an automatic escape hatch, including inciting violence. According to these rules, there is no possible way to hold Donald Trump to account for anything ever.
He wasn't serious about something. He was serious about something. He was serious then but now he's not. He wasn't serious then but now he is. That promise wasn't meant to be taken literally. This was meant to be taken literally (until he doesn't do it). This was only metaphorical (until he does it). It was a joke. It was showmanship. It was a joke and showmanship but now it's serious........and on and on and on it will go.
You just prove my point, When i bring up Obama saying inflammatory rhetoric you dismiss it as 'its a quote from a movie'.
Antifa being an organisation that explicitly organises marches to physically and violently confront whomever they disagree with systematically.
Is on a completely different scale then Trump getting annoyed at protesters disrupting his rallies and stating inflammatory rhetoric against them, and to compare them is honestly silly.
Moreover you used that as a counter-point in some fashion when Trump rallygoers got chased down by anti-trump protesters.
It doesn't matter what Trump says, because his rallygoers are individuals separate from him and they do not deserve being chased down simply by going to his rally.
Is this hard to understand?
The lack of context you provide for your statements of Trump creates flaws in the argument.
For Obama, he made his comments in some private function where he was re-assuring people that if his rally got violent by other people (presumably didn't agree with him) that his supporters wouldn't just take the blows but fight back.
For Trump, He and his supporters were getting real annoyed at protesters disrupting his rallies (not the 'im holding my sign over here peacefully protesting') and played up the frustration by his statements.
If you want to be some moral purist, then both are at fault for their statements, otherwise you make an exception for one, you make an exception for the other.
Accusations of improper conduct without explaining context is always suspect. I don't really care about Obama or Trump's statements, they were responding to protesters who were acting stupidly and nothing bad came out of it.
Never heard of Antifa anywhere but breitbart and other fake news sites that pander to right wing fear mongering. Does Antifa really exist? How much influence do they have if they do? If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Antifa shows three fake news right wing sites to me. Why are anitfa only mentioned on right wing sites? the rebel, bearing arms and conservative review are what show up at this particular time when I searched. Have these three pillars of journalism all at the same time infiltrated this mysterious group that no one has ever heard of outside of conservative websites? Or are the three of them pulling all this out of their butt? What's more probable a worldwide conspiracy that is so quiet that no one ever heard of it or lying fake news is making stuff up?
If it was a real organization that was popular with tendrils all over wherever it's supposed to be, wouldn't they have their own news or website or something. Wouldn't that be like the top hit in a search? Wouldn't they be more than throwaway mentions in between "Obama sucks" articles or whatever on those sites?
Or just maybe they don't exist except to scare right wingers into confirmation bias and believing in a boogeyman.
So yeah yeah do seem to be on a different scale than Trump. They are on a fictional scale while Trump does exist. And there's tape of him saying the things we're talking about.
I can't recall Obama ever telling his rally goers to attack the press or protestors. Do you? I do recall him going out of his way to let some interrupting misguided right wing protestors speak on more than one occasion.
Donald Trump thought it would be appropriate to host a guy that called Hillary a 'worthless bitch,' and our last President a 'subhuman mongrel' at the White House.
Ted Nugent , who has been accused of having sex with a 12-year-old, written a song about raping a 13-year-old and adopted a 17-year-old so that he could have sex with her without her parent's permission. He also apparently shat his pants to fail his physical and dodge the draft during the Vietnam War.
When Ted Nugent was 32 years old, he released the song “Jailbait.” Here’s a taste of the lyrics (written by him):
I don't get it.
So he has only been accused ? So in other words he is currently an innocent man who is merely offensive?
This sort of reminds me how the liberals and the mainstream media were so outraged about Trumps "grab em by the pussy" speech while everyone else around the world were just like "meh".
* Was it distasteful? Yes * Is it Tangible? No * Does it actually make a difference to anything related to Policy? No * Do people really care? Not really...
So from what I can see even if this Ted guy is the most distasteful person in the world... it's still just a insignificant dinner? Their are so many concerning issues the left can focus fire on that it completely bewilders me every time they decide to criticize POTUS over something trivial. Locker room banter, shoes on Easter, ketchup on steak, a Ted Nugent dinner...... not really important stuff imo
Says the guy who doesn't have a pussy up for grabs.
Antifa is a loose global and funded organization with the current goal to disrupt the growth of nationalism by violent means today, It has a long and loose history stretching back to pre-WW2.
It has held numerous violent reprisals across Europe (and now America), it originates from Europe.
I don't know what you mean by fictional, It doesn't get into the news often but it is in fact one of the much older established semi-decentralized reactionary militant political movements.
Antifa is a loose global and funded organization with the current goal to disrupt the growth of nationalism by violent means today, It has a long and loose history stretching back to pre-WW2.
It has held numerous violent reprisals across Europe (and now America), it originates from Europe.
I don't know what you mean by fictional, It doesn't get into the news often but it is in fact one of the much older established semi-decentralized reactionary militant political movements.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT A COUNTRY LEADERS DINNER PLANS!!
Obama eating brownies with rappers? Peta followers evil eyeing Trump and Ted Nugent eating a cow in the whitehouse? Tony Abbott eating a raw onion? Applegate Kevin Rudd? Ketchup on Steak? Julia Gillard eating buffet with a bunch of feminist mommy bloggers? Trump stuffing his face with chocolate cake (eww I hate chocolate) while several dozen bombs get dropped?
NO ONE CARES ABOUT A COUNTRY LEADERS DINNER PLANS!!
Obama eating brownies with rappers? Peta followers evil eyeing Trump and Ted Nugent eating a cow in the whitehouse? Tony Abbott eating a raw onion? Applegate Kevin Rudd? Ketchup on Steak? Julia Gillard eating buffet with a bunch of feminist mommy bloggers? Trump stuffing his face with chocolate cake (eww I hate chocolate) while several dozen bombs get dropped?
Says the guy who doesn't have a pussy up for grabs.
Er.................. ok?
(@FinneousPJ NOW you can say "woosh" as I have absolutely no idea what on earth @Nonnahswriter is on about)
I think you've made it pretty clear that you don't take the testimonials of the women who have accused Trump of sexual assault at all seriously, and you make light of his "pussy" comment as if it was the word itself that people had the problem with, rather than the fact that he was basically admitting and describing behavior he had engaged in. Also, she's saying you might think differently if you were a woman.
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So he has only been accused ? So in other words he is currently an innocent man who is merely offensive?
This sort of reminds me how the liberals and the mainstream media were so outraged about Trumps "grab em by the pussy" speech while everyone else around the world were just like "meh".
* Was it distasteful? Yes
* Is it Tangible? No
* Does it actually make a difference to anything related to Policy? No
* Do people really care? Not really...
So from what I can see even if this Ted guy is the most distasteful person in the world... it's still just a insignificant dinner? Their are so many concerning issues the left can focus fire on that it completely bewilders me every time they decide to criticize POTUS over something trivial. Locker room banter, shoes on Easter, ketchup on steak, a Ted Nugent dinner...... not really important stuff imo
Not exactly the 'narrative' that gets spun.
Of course your posts are really transparent attacks on Trump that he personally hosted (misleadingly) some guy no one cared about.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/heavy-police-presence-paris-champs-lyses/story?id=46917751
I hate to talk about what ramifications this has on politics, But the french election is what, 3 days?
Political parties will be talking about this it seems prior to the vote.
I couldn't tell you who Obama or Ronald Reagan had but I know how deplorable Nugent is.
By the way, if Barack Obama had let Beyonce and Jay-Z pose in front of a photo of Laura Bush with the clear intent of mocking her, we still wouldn't have stopped hearing about it in the media to this very day. Are these people 10 years old??
Not exactly going to find squeeky clean photo-shoots of cultural music icons.
Selective outrage is selective.
Btw hunting down rallygoers is immoral, doesn't matter what Trump says.
You do realize rallygoers are by and large innocent people right?
Yeh i agree, Unfortunately I don't see that applied for Trump.
Your just making my point for me.
Btw virtually every rally of Trump has a loudspeaker that says not to retaliate against protesters even if they do something, Trump was just being a showman at that time because everyone at that rally was getting pissed at the protesters disrupting his rally, he was probably annoyed too.
I would be as well.
He wasn't serious about something. He was serious about something. He was serious then but now he's not. He wasn't serious then but now he is. That promise wasn't meant to be taken literally. This was meant to be taken literally (until he doesn't do it). This was only metaphorical (until he does it). It was a joke. It was showmanship. It was a joke and showmanship but now it's serious........and on and on and on it will go.
re: Paris. The IS always claims responsibility for such things even when they had absolutely nothing to do with it; investigators have not yet made a determination whether there were any such links between the shooter and that organization.
Antifa being an organisation that explicitly organises marches to physically and violently confront whomever they disagree with systematically.
Is on a completely different scale then Trump getting annoyed at protesters disrupting his rallies and stating inflammatory rhetoric against them, and to compare them is honestly silly.
Moreover you used that as a counter-point in some fashion when Trump rallygoers got chased down by anti-trump protesters.
It doesn't matter what Trump says, because his rallygoers are individuals separate from him and they do not deserve being chased down simply by going to his rally.
Is this hard to understand?
The lack of context you provide for your statements of Trump creates flaws in the argument.
For Obama, he made his comments in some private function where he was re-assuring people that if his rally got violent by other people (presumably didn't agree with him) that his supporters wouldn't just take the blows but fight back.
For Trump, He and his supporters were getting real annoyed at protesters disrupting his rallies (not the 'im holding my sign over here peacefully protesting') and played up the frustration by his statements.
If you want to be some moral purist, then both are at fault for their statements, otherwise you make an exception for one, you make an exception for the other.
Accusations of improper conduct without explaining context is always suspect.
I don't really care about Obama or Trump's statements, they were responding to protesters who were acting stupidly and nothing bad came out of it.
So i've been perfectly consistent.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/19/venezuela-protest-mother-of-all-marches-maduro-violence
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/business/venezuela-general-motors-business-protests.html
Massive protests, crackdowns with death beginning, State Government seizure of private company properties.
Not exactly the great socialist country that people wanted, But History would have shown these people this is what happens.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Antifa
shows three fake news right wing sites to me. Why are anitfa only mentioned on right wing sites? the rebel, bearing arms and conservative review are what show up at this particular time when I searched. Have these three pillars of journalism all at the same time infiltrated this mysterious group that no one has ever heard of outside of conservative websites? Or are the three of them pulling all this out of their butt? What's more probable a worldwide conspiracy that is so quiet that no one ever heard of it or lying fake news is making stuff up?
If it was a real organization that was popular with tendrils all over wherever it's supposed to be, wouldn't they have their own news or website or something. Wouldn't that be like the top hit in a search? Wouldn't they be more than throwaway mentions in between "Obama sucks" articles or whatever on those sites?
Or just maybe they don't exist except to scare right wingers into confirmation bias and believing in a boogeyman.
So yeah yeah do seem to be on a different scale than Trump. They are on a fictional scale while Trump does exist. And there's tape of him saying the things we're talking about.
I can't recall Obama ever telling his rally goers to attack the press or protestors. Do you? I do recall him going out of his way to let some interrupting misguided right wing protestors speak on more than one occasion.
It has held numerous violent reprisals across Europe (and now America), it originates from Europe.
I don't know what you mean by fictional, It doesn't get into the news often but it is in fact one of the much older established semi-decentralized reactionary militant political movements.
social media is full of short local videos of dead people on the streets.
Damn scary stuff, this should be front-page news.
Obama eating brownies with rappers?
Peta followers evil eyeing Trump and Ted Nugent eating a cow in the whitehouse?
Tony Abbott eating a raw onion?
Applegate Kevin Rudd?
Ketchup on Steak?
Julia Gillard eating buffet with a bunch of feminist mommy bloggers?
Trump stuffing his face with chocolate cake (eww I hate chocolate) while several dozen bombs get dropped?
This is worse than fake news, its no news... Er.................. ok?
(@FinneousPJ NOW you can say "woosh" as I have absolutely no idea what on earth @Nonnahswriter is on about)