BTW: I think Trump is slowly losing Fox News also. A lot of their reporters have been left speechless the last few days.
Alot of conservative media has always been VERY comfortable peddling racism in what I (and many, many others) call "dog whistles". Whether or not you agree with that, these people still have to appear in public, and being asked to defend a guy who just flat-out defended Nazis and the KKK just doesn't wash. And FOX News is, as I've said before, essentially state media during Republican Administrations. However, their prime-time line-up of Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are still 100% behind him. Almost all the people I've seen upset on FOX the last 48 hours in clips have been either women or African-Americans.
I actually believe that Trump takes his cues from FOX News more than the other way around. A good portion of his speech yesterday could have been taken from any hour of Sean Hannity's radio show. Not many people know this, but Trump is very close with Michael Savage, a particularly virulent right-wing radio host. Trump has been studying this world of conservative media for as long as I have (since the late '90s) and he is well-versed in how it works and what resonates with core Republican voters who ingest this media. It's how I knew he would win the primary the moment he came down that escalator. Why would anyone buy Diet Coke when he was offering the real thing with sugar??
I can't stand Savage either. He's a dick. Same with Mark Levin. I don't mind Rush so much, only because I get the other side of the story from him. Rush's fawning over Trump, who clearly was never a true conservative, has made me lose respect for him too however.
Isn't Savage Jewish? How does that even make sense? That's mostly why I never liked him...
I can't stand Savage either. He's a dick. Same with Mark Levin. I don't mind Rush so much, only because I get the other side of the story from him. Rush's fawning over Trump, who clearly was never a true conservative, has made me lose respect for him too however.
Isn't Savage Jewish? How does that even make sense? That's mostly why I never liked him...
I spend way to much time listening to this stuff for a staunch liberal (at least over the years, at a certain point I had to stop, and had heard all of what I needed to hear). I won't watch FOX News anymore, but I will listen to Levin on my 15 minute drive home, and yes, unpleasant doesn't even begin to describe him.
I think Limbaugh is one of the most destructive political forces that has hit this country in the last 3 decades, BUT, he is a talented broadcaster, unfortunately. I do not think most people understand just how much right-wing radio has totally enveloped the thinking of most of rural American since Limbaugh took hold in the Clinton Administration. You can drive from San Francisco to Bangor, or Seattle to Miami, and never have a single moment where you won't be able to get a fix for right-wing hate radio. The IV drip is always running, everywhere, everyday, 24/7. You would be lucky to hit 3 liberal radio shows for 30 minutes here or there on those same cross-country trips. If people think TV leans left, there is absolutely no doubt that radio is almost 100% dominated by right-wing propaganda. It is all-enveloping. If you scan your car radio anywhere in the country, you will find it.
FOX News simply took the concept of the Rush Limbaugh's failed TV show, and applied it to a 24/7 TV network. Right there with Limbaugh, FOX News is (again, imo), the most destructive force in American politics, and it isn' even close. You can't separate AM radio and FOX News. They work in tandem, have the same goals, and (most importantly) they stay LOCKED on message. They coordinate it, they deliver it, and most importantly, they repeat it over and over and over.
Rush does let you know the other side of the story though. If the mainstream TV media wasn't so monolithic he never would've gotten as popular as he is. I know you won't agree with me @jjstraka34 but only hearing one side is not the answer...
I wouldn't know, I only listen to music in my car or podcasts rather than listen to right wing radio or even just regular radio with so many ads.
Podcasts are a dream. It's like radio about the stuff you care most about. I can go to work and spend my time listening to a Dark Souls podcast, get some NBA talk, get my liberal news fix, and then turn on my favorite SiriusXM stations later. The only reason terrestrial radio isn't dead is because people are always gonna have to drive.
A two party system is the worst possible form of government. If the Republicans splinter because of Trump I can only pray to God that the Dems splinter also. One party rule is a recipe for complete disaster!
How did our oh so wise founders not see this coming...?
Rush does let you know the other side of the story though. If the mainstream TV media wasn't so monolithic he never would've gotten as popular as he is. I know you won't agree with me @jjstraka34 but only hearing one side is not the answer...
Well that's the thing, I spent years listening to pretty much nothing BUT the other side. FOX News came of age when I was in high school, but my first memory of them (distinctly) was after Columbine, when they went on a full-on assault against Marilyn Manson, blaming him for something he had nothing to do with (not even tangentially, as the killers didn't even listen to his music). They are who I watched in the build-up to Iraq, and by that time my bullshit meter was on full-alert.
I actually voted for Nader in 2000. Within days, when I saw what was happening with the recount, I knew how stupid I had been. The fact was, I didn't support Gore because his wife the person who founded the PMRC and was responsible for the "Parental Advisory" stickers on CDs, and music censorship was what I had written my Senior term paper on. I literally voted for Nader because I was listening to too much Rage Against the Machine. I grew up politically after that, and vowed never to base my decision on something that petty every again. But then Bush made absolutely 110% sure I would never vote for another Republican even if someone had a gun to my head.
A two party system is the worst possible form of government. If the Republicans splinter because of Trump I can only pray to God that the Dems splinter also. One party rule is a recipe for complete disaster!
How did our oh so wise founders not see this coming...?
Our Founders are a bit overrated. We treat them like demi-gods. Jefferson has been discussed at length. John Adams passed the most anti-American legislation in the history of the country (in it's infancy) in the Alien and Sedition Acts. Benjamin Franklin spent alot of his time in whorehouses in France. They came up with a system that has lasted a good while, but we haven't reached the length of the Roman Empire yet. And things are going to be severely tested with Trump in office. Whether it holds is up for grabs.
Rush does let you know the other side of the story though. If the mainstream TV media wasn't so monolithic he never would've gotten as popular as he is. I know you won't agree with me @jjstraka34 but only hearing one side is not the answer...
Well that's the thing, I spent years listening to pretty much nothing BUT the other side. FOX News came of age when I was in high school, but my first memory of them (distinctly) was after Columbine, when they went on a full-on assault against Marilyn Manson, blaming him for something he had nothing to do with (not even tangentially, as the killers didn't even listen to his music). They are who I watched in the build-up to Iraq, and by that time my bullshit meter was on full-alert.
I actually voted for Nader in 2000. Within days, when I saw what was happening with the recount, I knew how stupid I had been. The fact was, I didn't support Gore because his wife the person who founded the PMRC and was responsible for the "Parental Advisory" stickers on CDs, and music censorship was what I had written my Senior term paper on. I literally voted for Nader because I was listening to too much Rage Against the Machine. I grew up politically after that, and vowed never to base my decision on something that petty every again. But then Bush made absolutely 110% sure I would never vote for another Republican even if someone had a gun to my head.
I was listening to Rage when voted for Perot in '92. Maybe we're not as different as I thought!
Rush does let you know the other side of the story though. If the mainstream TV media wasn't so monolithic he never would've gotten as popular as he is. I know you won't agree with me @jjstraka34 but only hearing one side is not the answer...
Well that's the thing, I spent years listening to pretty much nothing BUT the other side. FOX News came of age when I was in high school, but my first memory of them (distinctly) was after Columbine, when they went on a full-on assault against Marilyn Manson, blaming him for something he had nothing to do with (not even tangentially, as the killers didn't even listen to his music). They are who I watched in the build-up to Iraq, and by that time my bullshit meter was on full-alert.
I actually voted for Nader in 2000. Within days, when I saw what was happening with the recount, I knew how stupid I had been. The fact was, I didn't support Gore because his wife the person who founded the PMRC and was responsible for the "Parental Advisory" stickers on CDs, and music censorship was what I had written my Senior term paper on. I literally voted for Nader because I was listening to too much Rage Against the Machine. I grew up politically after that, and vowed never to base my decision on something that petty every again. But then Bush made absolutely 110% sure I would never vote for another Republican even if someone had a gun to my head.
I was listening to Rage when voted for Perot in '92. Maybe we're not as different as I thought!
I suspect you're about a decade older than I am, as I only got on the train when "Battle of Los Angeles" came out, then worked backwards. I still agree with the sentiment, it's still great music, but it's not something to base an adult political opinion on. I remember the WPO protests in Seattle in 2000 and immediately thought "well this is pretty goddamn dumb". I don't honestly know who has the money to travel across the country and go to all these protests. If you are a white nationalist, if you can travel to Charlottesville, you probably have money to spare and you aren't being oppressed by anything. If you are Antifa, it's possible the money you spent traveling there could have gone to a homeless shelter or a Children's Hospital. They all seem like children whose rich parents need to cut them off for a year and force them to live on Ramen and Grilled Cheese while stocking shelves.
Rush does let you know the other side of the story though. If the mainstream TV media wasn't so monolithic he never would've gotten as popular as he is. I know you won't agree with me @jjstraka34 but only hearing one side is not the answer...
Well that's the thing, I spent years listening to pretty much nothing BUT the other side. FOX News came of age when I was in high school, but my first memory of them (distinctly) was after Columbine, when they went on a full-on assault against Marilyn Manson, blaming him for something he had nothing to do with (not even tangentially, as the killers didn't even listen to his music). They are who I watched in the build-up to Iraq, and by that time my bullshit meter was on full-alert.
I actually voted for Nader in 2000. Within days, when I saw what was happening with the recount, I knew how stupid I had been. The fact was, I didn't support Gore because his wife the person who founded the PMRC and was responsible for the "Parental Advisory" stickers on CDs, and music censorship was what I had written my Senior term paper on. I literally voted for Nader because I was listening to too much Rage Against the Machine. I grew up politically after that, and vowed never to base my decision on something that petty every again. But then Bush made absolutely 110% sure I would never vote for another Republican even if someone had a gun to my head.
I was listening to Rage when voted for Perot in '92. Maybe we're not as different as I thought!
I suspect you're about a decade older than I am, as I only got on the train when "Battle of Los Angeles" came out, then worked backwards. I still agree with the sentiment, it's still great music, but it's not something to base an adult political opinion on. I remember the WPO protests in Seattle in 2000 and immediately thought "well this is pretty goddamn dumb". I don't honestly know who has the money to travel across the country and go to all these protests. If you are a white nationalist, if you can travel to Charlottesville, you probably have money to spare and you aren't being oppressed by anything. If you are Antifa, it's possible the money you spent traveling there could have gone to a homeless shelter or a Children's Hospital.
Totally agree. The Vietnam era has tremendously inflated the value of protests. Having said that, this Charlottesville event might turn out to be a good thing...
Rush does let you know the other side of the story though. If the mainstream TV media wasn't so monolithic he never would've gotten as popular as he is. I know you won't agree with me @jjstraka34 but only hearing one side is not the answer...
Well that's the thing, I spent years listening to pretty much nothing BUT the other side. FOX News came of age when I was in high school, but my first memory of them (distinctly) was after Columbine, when they went on a full-on assault against Marilyn Manson, blaming him for something he had nothing to do with (not even tangentially, as the killers didn't even listen to his music). They are who I watched in the build-up to Iraq, and by that time my bullshit meter was on full-alert.
I actually voted for Nader in 2000. Within days, when I saw what was happening with the recount, I knew how stupid I had been. The fact was, I didn't support Gore because his wife the person who founded the PMRC and was responsible for the "Parental Advisory" stickers on CDs, and music censorship was what I had written my Senior term paper on. I literally voted for Nader because I was listening to too much Rage Against the Machine. I grew up politically after that, and vowed never to base my decision on something that petty every again. But then Bush made absolutely 110% sure I would never vote for another Republican even if someone had a gun to my head.
I was listening to Rage when voted for Perot in '92. Maybe we're not as different as I thought!
I suspect you're about a decade older than I am, as I only got on the train when "Battle of Los Angeles" came out, then worked backwards. I still agree with the sentiment, it's still great music, but it's not something to base an adult political opinion on. I remember the WPO protests in Seattle in 2000 and immediately thought "well this is pretty goddamn dumb". I don't honestly know who has the money to travel across the country and go to all these protests. If you are a white nationalist, if you can travel to Charlottesville, you probably have money to spare and you aren't being oppressed by anything. If you are Antifa, it's possible the money you spent traveling there could have gone to a homeless shelter or a Children's Hospital.
Totally agree. The Vietnam era has tremendously inflated the value of protests. Having said that, this Charlottesville event might turn out to be a good thing...
The problem with protests is a Catch-22. If you don't disrupt the daily routine of people who aren't paying attention, the media won't cover it, and if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?? On the other hand, people get pissed when they get stuck in traffic.
That said, the protests the day after Trump was sworn in were the right thing. Those were all normal people. Moms, fathers, kids. It was millions of people across the country, and it was almost 100% peaceful that day. That was great. Everything since has devolved.
@jjstraka34 I like you and all, just don't think I've thrown my vote to Dems just yet. I'll piss my vote off to the Libertarian if I have to but I'm hoping Trump will be yesterday's news by then. None of my conservative friends at work are wishing they'd voted for Hillary and neither am I. The Democrats need to modify their thinking a bit if they want to earn my vote. What I need is a Republicrat or a Demublican to vote for...
As long as were on the subject, what are the opinions of the greatest political protest songs?? My list is as follows (let's do 5):
5.) "F**k tha Police" by N.W.A. - None are going to be more controversial, and it's possible that it took all the way until the past few years when cell phone cameras were everywhere to really understand what was being said by Gangsta Rap artists in the early-90s. Even Rodney King and the L.A. Riots didn't wake people up. But this song has the distinction of being the only one to prompt a warning letter from the FBI.
4.) "Going Underground" by The Jam - This is what I listen to when I have turned cynical, and just throw up my hands, and say "Fine, if this is what you people want, I am having nothing to do with it."
3.) "Ohio" by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - This song remains powerful and chilling to this day, I can't imagine how it sounded in the wake of the actual incident for young people across the country. I believe we are probably headed for another Kent State-like event when Trump is in office. Maybe we just had it.
2.) "Strange Fruit" by Billie Holiday - The moment you realize what the "strange fruit" in this song is, and then you realize that this song came out 1939, you come to the conclusion this was possibly the ballsiest thing every recorded by an American artist.
1.) "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival - This song is the sound of Vietnam, and the soundtrack to thousands of men being sent off to die for nothing in, what to them, was a nowhere land. While people like Trump and W. were indeed, Senator's and millionaire's sons. Righteous indignation at it's finest.
I love both Fortunate Son and Strange Fruit. Billy Holiday is one of my favorite blues singers. I can't believe you didn't mention 'Testify' or 'Guerilla Radio' by Rage though. Both are classics. My absolute favorite protest song is 'Gimme' Shelter' by the Stones though. It's my favorite song of all time. So much emotion it still moves me to this day...
The civil war was not a "war of northern aggression". It was the "war of northern aggression and southern greed".
I never understood how white nationalists can be so hypocritical and deluded as to love the confederacy while railing against capitalism. How can you say you are against global capitalism and that you love white people when you pay homage to a war that killed so many white people? Think about this: 500,000 people lost their lives in that war. September 11 would have to happen every day for six months to equal the loss of life.
Patriotism be damned...both sides were wrong in that war, but the Union was by far the lesser of the two evils.
The North didn't care about slaves. They were butthurt over the south not respecting their authoritah.
The South didn't care about white people - the slaveowning class of greedy capitalists were pissed off about losing their property so they made it personal for all the poor whites, indoctrinating them with cultural and racial appeals, to go and die fighting so that the rich southerners could keep their property.
I spit on the confederacy. Everytime I see a rebel flag I think about the fat fuckers sitting on their asses wining and dining while those poor deluded boys were in hell fighting for the rich man's "property".
Who in their right mind could support that? If that's your culture or heritage, then I feel sorry for you.
I love both Fortunate Son and Strange Fruit. Billy Holiday is one of my favorite blues singers. I can't believe you didn't mention 'Testify' or 'Guerilla Radio' by Rage though. Both are classics. My absolute favorite protest song is 'Gimme' Shelter' by the Stones though. It's my favorite song of all time. So much emotion it still moves me to this day...
"Gimmie Shelter" is the sound of Armageddon approaching. It's evocative, but it isn't addressing anything specific. It would be in my top 10. The combination of the opening guitar til it gets to the point where Merry Clayton screams "Rape.....Murder" is probably the best the Stones ever got, but there is alot of competition for that prize.
I don't think I'd put any Rage song in the top 10 actually. If there was one, it would certainly be "Killing in the Name Of", but before I got to them, I'd have to work through something from Public Enemy, something from The Clash, and probably a few others.
On a side note, though I'm convinced it was done mostly for shock value, "Bodies" by the Sex Pistols is the most scathing anti-abortion song ever recorded, by leaps and bounds.
A two party system is the worst possible form of government. If the Republicans splinter because of Trump I can only pray to God that the Dems splinter also. One party rule is a recipe for complete disaster!
How did our oh so wise founders not see this coming...?
First-past-the-post voting makes it incredibly hard to escape a two-party system, and our history bears this out. Any time a third party gains any sort of traction it will either replace one of the two parties or its message will be co-opted by an existing party. If you want to see more parties, you first need a different voting system that offers more support to them (e.g. instant runoff voting).
The Founders never envisioned a partisan system; in fact a number of them warned about the dangers of factionalism in the Federalist papers.
Gimme' Shelter was an anti-war song that can't be beaten. The rape/murder part was specifically about the war 'spoils' that usually accompanied victory in war. It's an eerie song that captures a lot of emotion. The female vocalist that was in the background was absolutely perfect. Number one in my book!
A two party system is the worst possible form of government. If the Republicans splinter because of Trump I can only pray to God that the Dems splinter also. One party rule is a recipe for complete disaster!
How did our oh so wise founders not see this coming...?
First-past-the-post voting makes it incredibly hard to escape a two-party system, and our history bears this out. Any time a third party gains any sort of traction it will either replace one of the two parties or its message will be co-opted by an existing party. If you want to see more parties, you first need a different voting system that offers more support to them (e.g. instant runoff voting).
The Founders never envisioned a partisan system; in fact a number of them warned about the dangers of factionalism in the Federalist papers.
I'd vote for a parliamentary system right now. I'm sure our Canadian forumites would agree. If the fringe left or fringe right want a piece of the pie they'll have to wait for a time where their 5% is needed for a majority. Until then f$%@ 'em...
A two party system is the worst possible form of government. If the Republicans splinter because of Trump I can only pray to God that the Dems splinter also. One party rule is a recipe for complete disaster!
How did our oh so wise founders not see this coming...?
First-past-the-post voting makes it incredibly hard to escape a two-party system, and our history bears this out. Any time a third party gains any sort of traction it will either replace one of the two parties or its message will be co-opted by an existing party. If you want to see more parties, you first need a different voting system that offers more support to them (e.g. instant runoff voting).
The Founders never envisioned a partisan system; in fact a number of them warned about the dangers of factionalism in the Federalist papers.
I'd vote for a parliamentary system right now. I'm sure our Canadian forumites would agree. If the fringe left or fringe right want a piece of the pie they'll have to wait for a time where their 5% is needed for a majority. Until then f$%@ 'em...
We need it but we won't get it. Most fun I had this year I think was watching the British Election a few months ago. I was seriously thinking to myself "I want to move here".
Steve Bannon seems to have pulled an audible and gave an interview to, of all places, the American Prospect, which is a relatively minor liberal publication in DC. Thing is, he is pulling a Mooch and saying it wasn't on the record. Regardless, I have absolutely no idea what his aim was here, but the contents would seem to give ammo to those who would want him out of the West Wing.
(for the record "pulling a Mooch" is when you snort 5 lines of cocaine and call up a reporter and proceed to ruin your White House job)
Steve Bannon seems to have pulled an audible and gave an interview to, of all places, the American Prospect, which is a relatively minor liberal publication in DC. Thing is, he is pulling a Mooch and saying it wasn't on the record. Regardless, I have absolutely no idea what his aim was here, but the contents would seem to give ammo to those who would want him out of the West Wing.
Steve Bannon seems to have pulled an audible and gave an interview to, of all places, the American Prospect, which is a relatively minor liberal publication in DC. Thing is, he is pulling a Mooch and saying it wasn't on the record. Regardless, I have absolutely no idea what his aim was here, but the contents would seem to give ammo to those who would want him out of the West Wing.
You're fired!
I don't know, I don't actually think Bannon is dumb enough to have done that. He has goals, and they mostly involve sowing chaos and causing disruption.
Steve Bannon seems to have pulled an audible and gave an interview to, of all places, the American Prospect, which is a relatively minor liberal publication in DC. Thing is, he is pulling a Mooch and saying it wasn't on the record. Regardless, I have absolutely no idea what his aim was here, but the contents would seem to give ammo to those who would want him out of the West Wing.
You're fired!
I don't know, I don't actually think Bannon is dumb enough to have done that. He has goals, and they mostly involve sowing chaos and causing disruption.
He pissed off el Presidente though. So long sucker...
Steve Bannon seems to have pulled an audible and gave an interview to, of all places, the American Prospect, which is a relatively minor liberal publication in DC. Thing is, he is pulling a Mooch and saying it wasn't on the record. Regardless, I have absolutely no idea what his aim was here, but the contents would seem to give ammo to those who would want him out of the West Wing.
You're fired!
I don't know, I don't actually think Bannon is dumb enough to have done that. He has goals, and they mostly involve sowing chaos and causing disruption.
Seriously though, my parents convinced me he'd surround himself with good people. Unfortunately they failed to realize he wouldn't listen to any of them. I'm done with this clown. My parents are not though. At 50 I guess I should go with my instincts...
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I actually believe that Trump takes his cues from FOX News more than the other way around. A good portion of his speech yesterday could have been taken from any hour of Sean Hannity's radio show. Not many people know this, but Trump is very close with Michael Savage, a particularly virulent right-wing radio host. Trump has been studying this world of conservative media for as long as I have (since the late '90s) and he is well-versed in how it works and what resonates with core Republican voters who ingest this media. It's how I knew he would win the primary the moment he came down that escalator. Why would anyone buy Diet Coke when he was offering the real thing with sugar??
Isn't Savage Jewish? How does that even make sense? That's mostly why I never liked him...
I think Limbaugh is one of the most destructive political forces that has hit this country in the last 3 decades, BUT, he is a talented broadcaster, unfortunately. I do not think most people understand just how much right-wing radio has totally enveloped the thinking of most of rural American since Limbaugh took hold in the Clinton Administration. You can drive from San Francisco to Bangor, or Seattle to Miami, and never have a single moment where you won't be able to get a fix for right-wing hate radio. The IV drip is always running, everywhere, everyday, 24/7. You would be lucky to hit 3 liberal radio shows for 30 minutes here or there on those same cross-country trips. If people think TV leans left, there is absolutely no doubt that radio is almost 100% dominated by right-wing propaganda. It is all-enveloping. If you scan your car radio anywhere in the country, you will find it.
FOX News simply took the concept of the Rush Limbaugh's failed TV show, and applied it to a 24/7 TV network. Right there with Limbaugh, FOX News is (again, imo), the most destructive force in American politics, and it isn' even close. You can't separate AM radio and FOX News. They work in tandem, have the same goals, and (most importantly) they stay LOCKED on message. They coordinate it, they deliver it, and most importantly, they repeat it over and over and over.
How did our oh so wise founders not see this coming...?
I actually voted for Nader in 2000. Within days, when I saw what was happening with the recount, I knew how stupid I had been. The fact was, I didn't support Gore because his wife the person who founded the PMRC and was responsible for the "Parental Advisory" stickers on CDs, and music censorship was what I had written my Senior term paper on. I literally voted for Nader because I was listening to too much Rage Against the Machine. I grew up politically after that, and vowed never to base my decision on something that petty every again. But then Bush made absolutely 110% sure I would never vote for another Republican even if someone had a gun to my head.
That said, the protests the day after Trump was sworn in were the right thing. Those were all normal people. Moms, fathers, kids. It was millions of people across the country, and it was almost 100% peaceful that day. That was great. Everything since has devolved.
I like you and all, just don't think I've thrown my vote to Dems just yet. I'll piss my vote off to the Libertarian if I have to but I'm hoping Trump will be yesterday's news by then. None of my conservative friends at work are wishing they'd voted for Hillary and neither am I. The Democrats need to modify their thinking a bit if they want to earn my vote. What I need is a Republicrat or a Demublican to vote for...
5.) "F**k tha Police" by N.W.A. - None are going to be more controversial, and it's possible that it took all the way until the past few years when cell phone cameras were everywhere to really understand what was being said by Gangsta Rap artists in the early-90s. Even Rodney King and the L.A. Riots didn't wake people up. But this song has the distinction of being the only one to prompt a warning letter from the FBI.
4.) "Going Underground" by The Jam - This is what I listen to when I have turned cynical, and just throw up my hands, and say "Fine, if this is what you people want, I am having nothing to do with it."
3.) "Ohio" by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - This song remains powerful and chilling to this day, I can't imagine how it sounded in the wake of the actual incident for young people across the country. I believe we are probably headed for another Kent State-like event when Trump is in office. Maybe we just had it.
2.) "Strange Fruit" by Billie Holiday - The moment you realize what the "strange fruit" in this song is, and then you realize that this song came out 1939, you come to the conclusion this was possibly the ballsiest thing every recorded by an American artist.
1.) "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival - This song is the sound of Vietnam, and the soundtrack to thousands of men being sent off to die for nothing in, what to them, was a nowhere land. While people like Trump and W. were indeed, Senator's and millionaire's sons. Righteous indignation at it's finest.
I never understood how white nationalists can be so hypocritical and deluded as to love the confederacy while railing against capitalism. How can you say you are against global capitalism and that you love white people when you pay homage to a war that killed so many white people? Think about this: 500,000 people lost their lives in that war. September 11 would have to happen every day for six months to equal the loss of life.
Patriotism be damned...both sides were wrong in that war, but the Union was by far the lesser of the two evils.
The North didn't care about slaves. They were butthurt over the south not respecting their authoritah.
The South didn't care about white people - the slaveowning class of greedy capitalists were pissed off about losing their property so they made it personal for all the poor whites, indoctrinating them with cultural and racial appeals, to go and die fighting so that the rich southerners could keep their property.
I spit on the confederacy. Everytime I see a rebel flag I think about the fat fuckers sitting on their asses wining and dining while those poor deluded boys were in hell fighting for the rich man's "property".
Who in their right mind could support that? If that's your culture or heritage, then I feel sorry for you.
I don't think I'd put any Rage song in the top 10 actually. If there was one, it would certainly be "Killing in the Name Of", but before I got to them, I'd have to work through something from Public Enemy, something from The Clash, and probably a few others.
On a side note, though I'm convinced it was done mostly for shock value, "Bodies" by the Sex Pistols is the most scathing anti-abortion song ever recorded, by leaps and bounds.
The Founders never envisioned a partisan system; in fact a number of them warned about the dangers of factionalism in the Federalist papers.
(for the record "pulling a Mooch" is when you snort 5 lines of cocaine and call up a reporter and proceed to ruin your White House job)