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Backstab weirdness

JoshBGJoshBG Member Posts: 91
in General Discussion (Spoiler Warning!)
To cut it short.

Here's the character:

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Here's the backstab:

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Where +6 damage is coming from?

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  • JarrakulJarrakul Member Posts: 2,029
    It almost looks like the crit and the hit got swapped around somehow. I dunno if that makes any more sense than a random +6, but it's all I got.
  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    @Jarrakul If it was a crit, wouldn't it be a multiple of four?
  • JarrakulJarrakul Member Posts: 2,029
    Hm. Good point. It's not quite that simple, because backstab doesn't multiply everything, but I'm pretty sure it multiplies everything that character's getting. Even if I'm wrong and it doesn't multiply proficiency bonuses, crits do, which means you still can't get 26.

    Further lending credibility to the "Jarrakul's first idea is wrong" hypothesis, I just did some testing with a new 1st level thief with a 13 strength. With a 2x backstab and a non-magical dagger, I tested four sneak attacks, dealing 14, 14, 10, and 2. Now isn't that an interesting spread for 1d4*2?
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    Just tested it too.

    Doing 16 damage to a nobles with a plain ol dagger on a regular hit.

    I wonder if they added something where you deal extra damage if you catch the person flatfooted?

    Or just a plain old bug?
  • JoshBGJoshBG Member Posts: 91
    edited March 2015
    That is actually it; I charmed Basilius beforehand to remove his weapon and spend his spells.

    Baatezu is ALWAYS in details. :)


    So if you want to efficiently stab someone in the back, become his/her friend! :D

    Actually, this makes sense... :neutral:
  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    Et tu, Mialeth?
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    Well, what @deltago did can most likely be explained by the fact that you get a +4 bonus to attack and damage for attacking an unarmed opponent.

    As for Bassilus... I am not sure. I tested backstabbing him with Imoen and it seemed to work fine.
  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    Oh, but @JoshBG removed Bassilus's weapons, so that explains it.
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    Ah... I see... You guys ninja'd me...
  • JoshBGJoshBG Member Posts: 91
    joluv said:

    Et tu, Mialeth?

    It wasn't her, she swears! She hears voices; they urge her to stab, and stab, AND STAB.

    Fortunately, only evil bastards are falling victim so far, but she thinks she needs to see a priest about her "hobby"...

    She also likes to cut purses, though... So preferably a priest from a wealthy church...

  • QwaziQwazi Member Posts: 10
    Does that bonus apply when fighting monks?
  • GoturalGotural Member Posts: 1,229
    edited March 2015
    No because Monks are considered armed with their fists.

    What happened here is that you rolled a 5 on your 1d6 dice, +2 for Specialisation, +2 for a Short Sword +2, +4 because Bassilus was unarmed x2 thanks to the backstab and you got 26 damages.
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