what does dorn say about imoen and others?
There's a conversation with Dorn that happens after I rested. He talks about being suspicious of party members then the party members and him talk. Instead of going around all over the place and reloading to read what they all have to say, going to ask what is said in regards to certain party members. Doesn't have to be word for word of course. I've heard/read the conversations of Minsc (I actually traveled to recruit him to hear what was said lol) Coran, Branwen, Neera, Jaheria, Rasaad. Mostly curious about Imoen I guess, but I would like to read what was said about and from others too.
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Dynaheir: I trust you are not disparaging my loyalty, blackguard. The wychlaran of Rashemen do not forget such insults.
Dorn: I distrust her witch's ways and phony shows of virtue.
Imoen: I know you CAN'T be talking about me.
Dorn: She is a foolish child.
Khalid: H-h-how dare y-you insinuate—?
Dorn: A sneeze would make that stammering coward surrender.
Minsc: What is that, Boo? Someone questions our loyalty?
Dorn: He is a mighty warrior, but he loves that "gerbil" above all else.
Minsc: You dare to call Boo a GERBIL! Take back your much-malignant accusation lest the mighty boots of justice leap and bound across the territory of your backside!
Dorn: I do not threaten your... hamster.
Alora: What? You aren't talking about sweet, innocent, cute little old me, are you?
Dorn: The miniature thief? You even have to ask?
Coran: No one listens to the word of a half-orc.
Dorn: I would watch where he points that bow.
Kivan: Careful what you say, half-orc.
Dorn: He has already proven himself weak for love.
Xan: We're already beaten. What's the point?
Dorn: The elf mutters doom and defeat.
Branwen: By the Foehammer, I mislike your insinuation, half-orc.
Dorn: A fine warrior, but she serves her god before she serves you.
Faldorn: Leave me out of your gossip.
Dorn: She cares too much about roots and squirrels.
Jaheira: Are you looking at me, blackguard? I have my eye on you.
Dorn: She serves the Harpers, not you.
Skie: Do we have to stand here and listen to Dorn's conspiracy theories?
Dorn: She betrayed her father. She will betray you. And listen, she speaks of conspiracy.
Garrick: CHARNAME, can you doubt that I am at your service?
Dorn: The conceited fool serves only himself.
Quayle: One of my intellect knows better than to cause strife in the group.
Dorn: You can never trust one who deals in illusion.
Safana: I generally avoid the temptation to betray my companions... unless I can't resist it.
Dorn: She uses her wiles to manipulate men. She cannot be trusted.
Edwin: Of course I will overthrow you underdeveloped primates... when the time is right.
Dorn: Hear that? The Red Wizard bides his time, waiting to take control.
Kagain: I don't care what you say.
Dorn: The dwarf loves only gold. Anyone can buy him.
Eldoth: You can't be serious. Everyone knows you can trust a bard.
Dorn: That seducer lives off the women he deceives.
Montaron: Call me a traitor, and I'll cut ya off at the knees!
Dorn: The little savage has his uses, but don't turn your back on him.
Viconia: You surface-dwellers never trust my people.
Dorn: The drow serves only her dark goddess.
Shar-Teel: Cross me, male, and I will break you over my knee.
Dorn: Her hatred of men makes her unpredictable.
Tiax: Tiax rules all!
Dorn: Need I say more?
Xzar: We have a circle of trust. We are standing in it right now. If somebody breaks that circle of trust, then... Aw, crap. I forgot the rest. I don't even know if I got the first part right!
Dorn: You can never trust the mad.
Rasaad: I assure you, I harbor no thoughts of treachery.
Dorn: The sanctimonious hide their true motives behind platitudes.
Neera: Don't listen to anything that big bully says. You know you can trust me.
Dorn: Even if that is true, you cannot trust her wild magic.
There are no comments from Ajantis, Yeslick and Baeloth.[/SPOILER]
Dorn is... fairly accurate.
Well, accurate to the first game at least. And until their missions change everything.
I tried keeping Dorn in an evil group I played somewhat recently, and just could not. It's hard to imagine a more thoroughly unlikable character in every possible way. Kudos to whoever made him, if that was the goal.
Baeloth: To be honest Dorn...You might be on to something.
Dorn: And yet, it is you I fear treachery from the least.
Ajantis: All who know me vouch for me. I am above your reproach, half-orc.
Dorn: And yet, horrifying acts have been performed under the mask of a white robe and divine symbol. I trust you least of all, boy.
Yeslick: Ye attempt to cast doubt on me, when it is you who we shan't dare turn our backs to?
Dorn: What of your god, dwarf? Surely Moradin takes exception to me? Surely he has whispered for you to deal with me in some way?
Two points to add there.
- Yeslick is, quite clearly, a priest of Clangeddin. What's this about Moradin, then?
- Dorn and Yeslick conflict; when they're both in the party, Yeslick will speak up and force you to send one away (to the Friendly Arm). You can re-recruit the one that left, though, and carry both in the party after that.
Of course, that's not as bad as the Ajantis conflict. If Ajantis and Dorn are ever both in the party, Ajantis will immediately speak up to object - and the only possible resolutions to that are for Ajantis to leave forever or for him to go hostile. You don't even get the option of rejecting Dorn in favor of Ajantis. You simply can't run both of them without either installing a mod to change that interaction or mucking around with variables.
With Dorn's keen and unusual insight into our companions, it would be a rare mistake to think he got Clangeddin and Moradin mixed up...unless there is something more to it! (dev error notwithstanding, lol)
As for the Ajantis and Dorn conflict, I wonder if the presence of Xan can calm/talk him down? Xan tends to be useful like that when Ajantis wigs out on his evil-smiting rage. LOL.
Like pretty much every priest companion he pulls the "They're more loyal to their god than they are to you" card. She's more loyal to the harpers than she is to you. Minsc cares more about his hamster than he does you. So on and so forth.
But these are actually examples of interests aligning. They strengthen our ability to work together, not weaken it.
Khalid in particular he's just flatout wrong. The dude has a stutter but he's plenty courageous, choosing to live by the sword despite his fears. It's not like it's ever laid out that he was forced into this profession or anything. If he occasionally gets skittish it's nothing a first or second level spell can't solve.
Montaron's probably the one he's most on the money about. Dude's useful just keep an eye on him. That's not an outlandish proposition when half the dude's lines are threatening anybody and everybody over the slightest provocation.
And in calmer moments Neera would be the first to tell you her magic is as likely as not to blow up in your face, no matter where her personal loyalties lie. I can't exactly fault his logic in this.
But I'm not really with all the people saying he's right on the money with most of these. They're the paranoid delusions of a man traumatized by a great betrayal, fearful of any potentiality that he'll experience it again no matter how mild. These are not the thoughts of a rational mind making an accurate assessment that betrayal is a reasonable concern here.