how does CONCENTR.2da work?

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Grammarsalad

subtledoctor said:

The file has this by default:

2DA V1.0
0
BEHAVIOR                 VALUE
CHECK_MODE               1

Does 1 mean concentration checks are enabled, or disabled?

My guess is that they are disabled. I wonder what a 0 would do...

Dee

There's a section in the release notes that talks about modding features, including externalizations like this one. The specifics are described there.

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Grammarsalad

Oh, subtledoctor, you have to read this!

This is great:
(from the document)

Spellcasting Failure (16669)
The way that spellcasters fail after taking damage has
been externalized to CONCENTR.2da. By default, any
damage a spellcaster takes will cause them to fail their
spellcasting.
CHECK_MODE
0 Any damage
1 (1d20 + luck) vs. (spell level + damage taken)
2 (1d20 + Concentration ) vs. (15 + spell level)
Note from the Developers: This is inspired by a feature
from ToBEx. Be aware that Baldur's Gate games have
no Concentration skill; using that option will use a basic
1d20+luck formula for the caster's check.

Edit: Wait. Is this accurate? If it defaults to damage, shouldn't that value be "0"?

Edit2: What is "Concentration" in this formula:

1d20 + Concentration

Okay, "Be aware that Baldur's Gate games have
no Concentration skill; using that option will use a basic
1d20+luck formula for the caster's check."

Eh?

Grammarsalad

Also, I'm not seeing anything about the new K_M_X 2das

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subtledoctor said:

Oooh, that means concentration checks are on by default in BGEE 2.0. (At least, as of the final 2.0.62 beta, which is what I have installed atm.) I bet some people might not like that.

Okay, looking at those two formulae... those are quite different. With the first forumula, if you are casting a 1st level spell and take ~1 hp damage, you are 90% likely to successfully cast the spell. Take note: with this option, poison and insects are NOT automatic mage-killers any longer.

Whereas, if you get clubbed with a 2H sword, you are more likely to be interrupted. Cool.

But, what about that second option? What is the 'Concentration skill' that they are talking about?

AstroBryGuy

Grammarsalad said:

subtledoctor said:

Oooh, that means concentration checks are on by default in BGEE 2.0. (At least, as of the final 2.0.62 beta, which is what I have installed atm.) I bet some people might not like that.

Okay, looking at those two formulae... those are quite different. With the first forumula, if you are casting a 1st level spell and take ~1 hp damage, you are 90% likely to successfully cast the spell. Take note: with this option, poison and insects are NOT automatic mage-killers any longer.

Whereas, if you get clubbed with a 2H sword, you are more likely to be interrupted. Cool.

But, what about that second option? What is the 'Concentration skill' that they are talking about?

"Be aware that Baldur's Gate games have no Concentration skill; using that option will use a basic 1d20+luck formula for the caster's check."

It doesn't exist... in Baldur's Gate games... But it does in IWD2...

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kjeron

Grammarsalad said:

This is great:
(from the document)

Spellcasting Failure (16669)
The way that spellcasters fail after taking damage has
been externalized to CONCENTR.2da. By default, any
damage a spellcaster takes will cause them to fail their
spellcasting.
CHECK_MODE
0 Any damage
1 (1d20 + luck) vs. (spell level + damage taken)
2 (1d20 + Concentration ) vs. (15 + spell level)
Note from the Developers: This is inspired by a feature
from ToBEx. Be aware that Baldur's Gate games have
no Concentration skill; using that option will use a basic
1d20+luck formula for the caster's check.

This is the behavior I have been seeing:
0 - Always interrupt - Even when taking zero damage.
1 - Never interrupt - Even with Dorn Critting 40 damage, spellcasting was not interrupted.
2 - Chance interrupt
Would be nice if there was some feedback text in the chat window.

Grammarsalad

Hmmmm, not as advertised