What is your favourite cleric kit ?

Danacm

I love the idea of pure clerics, but i cant choose, what is your experience of clerics, what is the most fun, strong etc.

JumboWheat01

I'll admit to being a sucker for Helm. Even after having to deal with a certain group of Helmites in Neverwinter Nights. Being able to pull a bastard sword out of no where when spellcasting isn't needed is just plain awesome.

Plus props have to be given to the one god who actually was trusted enough to remain a god through the Times of Trouble.

O_Bruce

There is no Cleric of Mystra, Cleric of Gond or Cleric of Oghma. So none from the above. And I'm not okay with dual classing either.

Lord_Tansheron

Not voting for multi/dual because it's the obvious choice. Out of single-class Cleric kits, Lathander is likely the best.

HoopleDoople

If I have a character restricted to blunt weapons I'm going to give them the best ones (Flail of Ages and Crom Faeyr) rather than have a character with sub-par weaponry. But such great weapons feel kind of wasted on a pure Cleric, so I much prefer a Ranger/Cleric or Fighter/Cleric.

If forced to take pure Cleric the Priest of Talos is the one I've enjoyed most, even if it isn't the most powerful.

Grum

Because we can't be a cleric of Moradin I vote for multiclass

dracostrike

Helm is what I prefer Particularly since I just did a Cleric/thief run and a backstabbing Seeking Sword is perfect for them Ever seen a fanatic yelling "For the Great Guard!" as he rips through shadows and fiends, literally seething with holy might?
(I know that a dual-class but the sword element made it so perfect that I just loved this kit so much afterwards!)

elminster

Well since you didn't specify the BG series (and put this in general)...I'm going with Tempos

(I'll have none of that "Tempus" those southerners are selling)

Flashburn

Clerics are alright by themselves, but they are way better when multi- or dual-classed with Fighter just because they get so many self-buffs that benefit greatly from the Fighter's higher number of attacks/round.

Also cleric/mages are the kings of spellcasting.

Pteran

Tempos is where it's at!

znancekivell

Cleric/Mage for me. I want all the powers.

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Aedan

Priest of Tempus, especially for roleplaying reasons. I really want to see this kit added to BG as well

JumboWheat01

All these Tempus players remind me that I need to actually play Icewind Dale EE. I bought it the same time as both Baldur's Gate EEs, after all.

Maybe I'll consider Tempus. I'll also admit to being somewhat fond of Gods of War and clerics with the War Domain in later editions.

smeagolheart

Looking at stats, seems like powers of Tyr are better than Lathander due to scaling hit and damage bonuses for Tyr vs an extra attack and +1 to hit/damage for Lathander

Lord_Tansheron

smeagolheart said:

Looking at stats, seems like powers of Tyr are better than Lathander due to scaling hit and damage bonuses for Tyr vs an extra attack and +1 to hit/damage for Lathander

APR scales with your weapon and STR stat, while dmg/thac0 bonus scales with your APR - however, as a Cleric you have very little ways to actually increase APR, but you have several ways to increase STR (and the quality of your weapon).

If you hit for an average of 20 damage per hit on 2 APR, going to 3 APR is a 50% increase in damage output (40->60). You would need level 60 to get the same damage from the Tyr kit bonus (+1 every 3 levels). Even accounting for THAC0, it's not hard to see that APR is better in the majority of scenarios.

semiticgoddess

A cleric's greatest weakness is its low APR. Clerics of Lathander and Helm can both increase it with their special abilities, but the Cleric of Lathander can do so with any weapon, without losing their spellcasting abilities.

smeagolheart

Lord_Tansheron said:

smeagolheart said:

Looking at stats, seems like powers of Tyr are better than Lathander due to scaling hit and damage bonuses for Tyr vs an extra attack and +1 to hit/damage for Lathander

APR scales with your weapon and STR stat, while dmg/thac0 bonus scales with your APR - however, as a Cleric you have very little ways to actually increase APR, but you have several ways to increase STR (and the quality of your weapon).

If you hit for an average of 20 damage per hit on 2 APR, going to 3 APR is a 50% increase in damage output (40->60). You would need level 60 to get the same damage from the Tyr kit bonus (+1 every 3 levels). Even accounting for THAC0, it's not hard to see that APR is better in the majority of scenarios.

thanks I didn't notice the 2 round duration either on Tyr. Yikes.

Pteran

After reading the thread by @Wowo over on the IWD forum, Lathander sounds pretty awesome to me. Priest of Tempos is still superior to the civilized gods, but Lathander is pretty cool too

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/51414/priest-of-lathander-29-mage-30-solo-hof-summary

GenderNihilismGirdle

NG cleric with the Lathander kit is is the only single-class cleric playthrough I've ever done of BG/BG2, so I'm biased, it was so much more fun than cleric/mage plus it was super fun to grab the Cleric Stronghold and feel like "YES, THIS IS MY DESTINY!!"

marzbarz

The one that's not on the list lol, Ilmater. But really I never felt like the cleric kits offered much more than a reason why your a cleric/the abilities I rarely looked into when I played one.

Southpaw

Lightning and thunder on you, heathens!

jackjack

Talos if I have to pick a kit.

Kamigoroshi

I like to roleplay my cleric/thief half-orcs as priests of Shargaas, the Orc deity of night and undead. That dude is so much more charismatic than Mask. And don't get me started with the mask of Mask nonsense.

Out of the vanilla kits I like Talos the most. After all his followers own a monopol for electric sockets. Just look at their stronghold for instance!

Dazzu

Gods should've been a feature, not a kit, and be available to all clerics and maybe all divine worship classes?

Vallmyr

True Necromancer of Velsharoon or Kiaranasalee! (Cleric/Mage)

abacus

Something very badass about Helm to me... all indignant fury and righteous wrath.
If I'm gonna be smiting, I wanna smite with the might of a practiced smiter!

Pteran

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gv9LSDEnXGk

@abacus your post made me think of this.

Arius

Tyr just to take away the charm and other BS of your group when spell casters play nasty.

Danacm

I like the lathander boon its a great ability, and the seeking sword-true sight combo from helm cleric. I cant choose between them.

kensai

All pure clerics seems weak to me. Small number of useful spells, and all are very situational and can be replaced by potions.
So, Ranger\Cleric for the president!