My personal impression of BG2 EE
Vlad
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Eventually, I have purchased both games for $2.99 each from GOG and decided to give a try. I'll comment only on BG2 EE, because BG EE has basically the same problems.
Initially, I needed to install some OpenAL custom drivers to make it work in my PC, which is pretty strong and has the latest video and audio drivers. Then I needed to learn a new interface, which is very confusing, in my opinion. Too much information, which is not needed. Visually, it's simply unbearable, including very bad fonts. I have a way better fonts in my mods. Character animations look like stickers cut from a piece of paper and glued on the drawn background. The blue sprites and bars are awful either. Quest-, plot-, banter-wise, it's exactly the same game. I really don't understand all the fuss around these remakes.
Well, I stopped playing BG2 EE in Slums after meeting Gaelan, and removed it from my PC once and for good. Really, guys, for the team and money you gathered, you could do better. It is a total lack of creativity that you showed with these releases. You are strongly money-oriented, but deliver absolutely nothing.
In my opinion, these releases are the total failure and shame on creators!
EDIT: By the way, CLUA Console is not existing?
Initially, I needed to install some OpenAL custom drivers to make it work in my PC, which is pretty strong and has the latest video and audio drivers. Then I needed to learn a new interface, which is very confusing, in my opinion. Too much information, which is not needed. Visually, it's simply unbearable, including very bad fonts. I have a way better fonts in my mods. Character animations look like stickers cut from a piece of paper and glued on the drawn background. The blue sprites and bars are awful either. Quest-, plot-, banter-wise, it's exactly the same game. I really don't understand all the fuss around these remakes.
Well, I stopped playing BG2 EE in Slums after meeting Gaelan, and removed it from my PC once and for good. Really, guys, for the team and money you gathered, you could do better. It is a total lack of creativity that you showed with these releases. You are strongly money-oriented, but deliver absolutely nothing.
In my opinion, these releases are the total failure and shame on creators!
EDIT: By the way, CLUA Console is not existing?
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CLUA Console works fine, they just changed the input. All you have to do is type "C:" then the command, e.g. CreateItem.
Anyway this is going way off-topic... if nobody else wishes to comment the OP I'll close this thread tomorrow.
As players stood from their vantage point of a flying carpet, they watched as from a giant sinkhole where hundreds of these Thri-Keens swarmed around, a Tarrasque rose up from the sand and proceeded to literally bulldoze the hoard. To their credit, the players managed to annoy the Tarrasque enough for it to retreat (mostly from the bard's bad singing) but not before the biggest scene of pure genocide had occurred.....
No player that day asked to be a Thri-Keen.
I admit it was real fun gameplay to open inventory everytime you wanted to switch weapons (this is sarcasm). Everything you say is misguided but whatever, keep playing that old BG engine crap with your super cool mods I uninstalled as quickly as you uninstalled the EEs
But what's the harm to adjust your mods to play well with EE-games (or let somebody do it with your approval/guidance etc.)?
Look, you bring up hundreds of mods that makes BG franchise so damn fantastic, but the list of mods that don't work with EE games is shrinking each day (not to mention some cool mods that are EE-only). In fact there are just few of those that matter to me that *don't* work with EE and sadly your mods are on top of this list
There's nothing stopping you from writing TP2 code to adjust the NeJ code to work for the EE games. If you did a good job, Vlad might even integrate your code in officially. The code to adjust for compatibility with the EE games is likely not that many lines. It's simply a pain to learn what needs to be changed, change it, and test it. With personal time and therefore modding time limited, it's quite understandable that Vlad doesn't want to make that plunge.
Again, there is nothing preventing you sir from taking that plunge. ^_^
From another angle, I'm not sure how many of the popular mods would be approved by Wizard of the Coast licensing process, which definitely puts constraints on what BeamDog are allowed to do with a commercial product.
The most obvious community benefit of the EEs though is their ready availability, on a wide variety of platforms. If you want to play on a Mac, a Linux box, or a mobile device/tablet, that is now possible, and a surprisingly large portion of the modern player base is no longer playing on a Windows PC, and certainly not exclusively on Windows PCs.
It is quite possible that you are not in the audience that would appreciate an enhanced edition, but that does not mean that a company still releasing free patches and supporting a 20-year-old game is nothing but a money-grab.
This is not to say the company can do no wrong; there were certainly concerns raised on the revised UI in the last round of patches. But the company is listening to the player feedback, and generally responding appropriately.
Anyway, the ability to equip a shield and a bow at the same time is a very nice breath of fresh air to those of us who may play the game differently. This change is also applicable to being able to dual wield and equip a bow at the same time (you have to go through the same process to switch between dual wielding and bow and weapon + shield and bow).
You may not personally have a use for this, but for many of us it is far from a "really stupid feature."