Who should I boot from my party to make room for Saverok??
Ramshine
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I just started TOB and Saverok wants to tag along. I really like the idea of him being in my party but I'm having a hard time deciding who to cut. I'm leaning toward Imoen. The most RP sence because she is Baal spawn and would want to protect her and keep her out of harms way. Plus she has been whining about wanting to go home all of and after would want to protect her and keep her out of harms way. Plus she has been whining about wanting to go home all of Bg2. That being said I heard she was a really key player that being said I heard she was a really he fired in TOB and it's really fun to see her interact with Saverok. It's a hard place because I've grown so close to all of my characters so I thought I'd get the forums input on the subject 
it's worth mentioning That I romanced Viconia.
it's worth mentioning That I romanced Viconia. - Who should I boot from my party to make room for Saverok??84 votes
- Minsc60.71%
- Edwin17.86%
- Viconia3.57%
- Jaheira11.90%
- Imoen1.19%
- Don't take Saverok4.76%
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the only thing that minsc has going for him is armor of faith, but with sarevok's higher HP, it really doesn't make up for it, plus sarevok's death bringer assault mixed in the with ravanger +6 is an absolute menace
Plus, Viconia, as a single-classed cleric, has the worst scaling in TOB considering (1) Imoen's Planetar makes Viconia's Fallen Deva unusable and (2) you already have Jaheira as a healer.
This is assuming you're playing SCS, or assuming EE switches Greater Restoration to be a single-target spell. If not, then Viconia's Greater Restoration will be a fabulous party-wide rescue option that is far more useful than Minsc's status as a tank.
but combat wise, I guess it goes to jaheira, being able to learn fighter HLAs is quite useful, mixed with armor of faith, iron skins, and hardiness then dishing out greater whirlwinds is quite nice
He's the person in your group I can imagine Charname would have the weakest emotional bond to.
Minsc, Jaheira and Imoen are practically family and Viconia is your lover. Sarevok knows about the prophecy and given he'll get a bit of your own or Imoen's soul, I'd rather have him on a leash than left to stray and potentially oppose me again at a later point.
Edwin is an awesome mage, don't get me wrong, but keeping him around is purely professional if you ask me - I'd personally feel no grief telling him to leave the party. Imoen is a solid mage too and can wear the amulet of power.
Sarevok is better warrior than Minsc, but in defence of Minsc - he has some advantages that Sarevok doesn't. Armour of faith as a spell to stack with Hardiness HLA, the ability to wear amulet of power (Sarevok can't), berserk ability which boosts his important fighter stats over that of Sarevoks and gives him immunity to maze (or imprisonment - I forget which one) and he's viably lethal as dual wielder by the time you can get Sarevok.
I currently had Minsc dual wielding stonefire +3 and frostreaver +3 battle axes in Saradush kicking all manner of vampire arse, wearing the amulet of power. He mowed through them.
He's got 3-4 HLA's and Sarevok, who is a couple of levels behind him has yet to gain access to any.
Still, I voted for Minsc at first but I see now @semiticgod is right on point. Viconia is the weakest link and should struggle to stay alive against fire giants, dragons, and drow backstabbers and kensais in ToB. Magic resistance is good but by ToB most anyone has excellent saves and counter spells/items to most magic. In ToB you need hit points, stoneskin+pro from magic weapons, and/or hardiness to survive. Viccy has none. High ac and mr is super powerful in BG1 and early SoA. Not so much in ToB.
Viconia is your love and RP wise should stay. And her clerical magic and undead control are still useful, but your saving throws at this point are very good and you can probably survive without chaotic commands.
And she is not Aerie, that can boost herself and go mlee fully protected with 4 APR at maximum damage and 25 STR. Viky will die fast in TOB if used so. She has Energy blades to deal damage, but is the less useful at this point of the game.
Minsk and Sarevok. It seems that doing the same job one is redundant, I don't think so. Sarevok with his GM will use only one type of weapon, 2 hander, while the Ranger can DW, tank with a shield or go with another 2 hander, only 2 pips but versatility. Using them together is very effective and there are good weapons enough to equip 4 fighters, they are not in competition for that.
Jaheira can DW very well, has Ironskin to tank, and imo in TOB druidic magic rooks. Not only the insects spells, think at Summon Elemental Prince, that can be summoned together with a Planetar, IHasted are 2 more strong fighters even in end game.
Imoen and Edwin. Immy is the only thief you have, can use a bow and cast every spell. Edwin can cast more spells X day but 1 school is prevented. And you have only 1 RoV, that at this point should be used by the main caster, not by your KM that can protect himself in other ways and deal physical damage. If Imoen is not too underdeveloped imo is the best pick. RP there are good reasons both to drop her, to protect her, and have her in the party. Arcane magic rules, but RoV and IA change the things, now Charname is more then enough as second mage of the party.
So you can have 4 strong hitters, Minsk and Sarevok with good HP and Charname and Jaheira with magical protection, 3 of them with fighter HLAs. Pretty solid. 2 places left.
I will drop Viky if the power is your only concern because even if Imoen and Edwin seem to be redundant for the reasons I have already told you can configure their spellbooks in different ways and give the robe to the one that has the better selection before the battle. But as the romance is quite interesting, imo the best written of all, I will keep her.
So I vote Edwin, or Immy if she is too underleveled.
If you're playing with SCS, you end up catching Greater Malisons left and right, followed by triple Chaos Sequencers and similar things, and enemy spellcasters make constant efforts to debuff your party.
Viconias job is to monitor the fight, debuff negative status effects, heal up the front liners, summon mobs of elementals, and renew useful buffs like chaotic commands, if necessary.
Contrary to common -false- belief, AC still matters, you just need to get it low enough. Also, if you don't make use of Sanctuary as a Cleric, it's your loss.
For me, Viconia is the reliable fail-safe who can still fix unlucky dice rolls without just going for the reload button.
I play with the same party as the OP, and I end up kicking Jaheira for Sarevok. It should be mentioned that I pick Sarevok mainly for RP reasons, mechanically I consider Jaheira to be more useful than Sarevok, who is a bit of a glass cannon.
Between Jaheira and Viconia, I favor the Drow due to her MR, and the vast gulf in terms of spellslots between them.
That's how I generally justify it. The beauty of alternative character interpretations!
If charname give to Boo enough nuts and other good food he, and Minsc, will never leave.
If Jan is in the party even better, Boo secretly loves the gnome and would like to have mr Jansen as his personal pet, but, being very wise, knows that his ranger pet would loose his mind, the few that is still left after a life of being beat on his helm by every possible weapon. Boo is good aligned, he would never do this to his pet, so is happy to own Minsc and also secretly own Jan.