Keldorn is the epitome of a Paladin to me. He also has a great voice set. I don't believe hes racist so much as Viconia is of an evil alignment. Paladin characters can almost always reach a breaking point when facing those of evil alignment. As for potentially having his wife executed he is a lawful good character and those were the laws at the time.
Paladin's have the Black vs white view of the world and that really mucks their presonallties up but I go with Ajantis 9/10 play thoughs of BG1, and Keldorn a lot less than that. Remember Paladin code in FR is Good must prevail and all Evil must be punished, in Viconia's case she's a drow therefor she must be evil. Same logic hits Drizzit often too if you read on him.
I think she is evil not because she is a drow, but rather it states that plainly on her character sheet. These arguments about paladins being racist are completely silly. Evil is not a race, and the world is in fact black and white in the forgotten realms.
Paladin's have the Black vs white view of the world and that really mucks their presonallties up but I go with Ajantis 9/10 play thoughs of BG1, and Keldorn a lot less than that. Remember Paladin code in FR is Good must prevail and all Evil must be punished, in Viconia's case she's a drow therefor she must be evil. Same logic hits Drizzit often too if you read on him.
I think she is evil not because she is a drow, but rather it states that plainly on her character sheet. These arguments about paladins being racist are completely silly. Evil is not a race, and the world is in fact black and white in the forgotten realms.
I would also point out that it pains him to have to follow the law and have his wife executed. He is even willing to bend the rules (which is something Paladins don't do) to allow her to live and have a happy ending with your help.
I agree Viconia is of evil alignment. She can change in Throne of Baal, but I'm not certain how Keldorn would react to that or not. I agree that he is only acting on her alignment being evil and not because she is a drow. If that was the case Keldorn would have attacked Drizzt when you meet him.
@ReadingRambo. @UnknownQuantity: though if I remember correctly, Viconia doesn't actually ACT evil. dismissive and nonchalant? sure. but downright evil? erm, no, at least I haven't seen a single instance. she's much closer to true neutral (the non-balance-crazed version) imho, despite what it states on her character page.
@dinsdalepiranha Yes, paladins shouldn't kill people for being evil, but rather for their actions. In character, Viconia is probably the least evil of the evil characters making her possible TOB romance arc fairly plausible.
However: Viconia is an evil cleric. Thats a very important difference. Clerics in the realms get powers because their actions expand their gods power. Viconias profession is literally working for a force of evil in the realms and helping it expand its power. Its probably legitimate to pretty much kill any evil cleric you can find in the context of the Realms; being granted spells is de facto evidence of, you know, having done evil stuff.
Of course, if Keldorn cares about that or is racist, is interpretation to a degree but he doesn't get all murdery in the underdark or towards Drizzt.
I don't believe Keldorn attacks Viconia on site. It happens over a period of time.
It appears that whoever rote the game wanted. Viconia to be of evil alignment or they wouldn't have given it to her. Perhaps they should have made her neutral instead, but they didn't.
They do give her a chance to change in ToB.
I doubt many Paladin's (D&D) would tolerate an evil aligned Drow in their party. Keldorn eventually comes to blows with pretty much any evil aligned character.
I just did this encounter last night heh. Usually I will save her as there is no way to tell who is telling the truth. None the less I am playing the game through as a Paladin. I cast detect evil right before the dialogue and Viconia appeared red. The flaming fist character did not. I agreed to hand her over to the flaming fist based on this. She attacked me right away and forced me to kill her.
Keldorn. I don't mind Ajantis either, but Keldorn was such a relief, after having put up with Anomen's judgemental comments and bragging. I felt like going "see this? This is what you should aspire to, you preening moron."
That aside, Keldorn was very well thought out and a well rounded character. Also, and this only just occured to me, but it's very interesting how many of the BG2 characters had a lot of "family issues". Not all of them, but a significant amount.
Keldorn. I don't mind Ajantis either, but Keldorn was such a relief, after having put up with Anomen's judgemental comments and bragging. I felt like going "see this? This is what you should aspire to, you preening moron."
That's sort of the point with Ano, if you take both of them in the party and allow Ano to pass his test
they share a dialogue where Ano, after being an arrogant idiot, apologises to Keldorn for being an arrogant idiot and for not accepting his advice in the spirit it was offered
One of my favourite things is if you have Keldorn & Aerie in the same party, they have a nice father / daughter dynamic and she asks him lots of questions.
On the subject of Aerie, I think it's a shame there's no quest to reunite her with her family.
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Keldorn is wonderfully voice acted and inquisitor abilities are very powerful. Its a no brainer who the best paladin is.
The throne of bhaal ending makes me sad so I alaways "release him from my service" and make him hang out with his family after his quest line.
I agree Viconia is of evil alignment. She can change in Throne of Baal, but I'm not certain how Keldorn would react to that or not. I agree that he is only acting on her alignment being evil and not because she is a drow. If that was the case Keldorn would have attacked Drizzt when you meet him.
However: Viconia is an evil cleric. Thats a very important difference. Clerics in the realms get powers because their actions expand their gods power. Viconias profession is literally working for a force of evil in the realms and helping it expand its power. Its probably legitimate to pretty much kill any evil cleric you can find in the context of the Realms; being granted spells is de facto evidence of, you know, having done evil stuff.
Of course, if Keldorn cares about that or is racist, is interpretation to a degree but he doesn't get all murdery in the underdark or towards Drizzt.
It appears that whoever rote the game wanted. Viconia to be of evil alignment or they wouldn't have given it to her. Perhaps they should have made her neutral instead, but they didn't.
They do give her a chance to change in ToB.
I doubt many Paladin's (D&D) would tolerate an evil aligned Drow in their party. Keldorn eventually comes to blows with pretty much any evil aligned character.
http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/12223/viconia-alignment-racism-spoilers/p1
That aside, Keldorn was very well thought out and a well rounded character. Also, and this only just occured to me, but it's very interesting how many of the BG2 characters had a lot of "family issues". Not all of them, but a significant amount.
One of my favourite things is if you have Keldorn & Aerie in the same party, they have a nice father / daughter dynamic and she asks him lots of questions.
On the subject of Aerie, I think it's a shame there's no quest to reunite her with her family.