Killing Shandalar
yksimalt
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Greetings all,
The other day, in one of my numerous random attempts to kill Shandalar after having fled the island, I succeded in stunning him with a wand, and after that it was quickly over.
What are the odds would you say, that the wand successfully stuns him?
The xp for the kill was amazing
First time ever slaying him, and thus my save-game file henceforth for CHARNAME is "Shandalar killed".
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The other day, in one of my numerous random attempts to kill Shandalar after having fled the island, I succeded in stunning him with a wand, and after that it was quickly over.
What are the odds would you say, that the wand successfully stuns him?
The xp for the kill was amazing
First time ever slaying him, and thus my save-game file henceforth for CHARNAME is "Shandalar killed".
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Usually go with Charname (dagger of venom, arrows of biting, poisoned arrows (SCS Kobold random drop), Assassin's/Strifleader of Cyric poison, Eldoth's poison arrow, Poison spell, dart of wounding), some arcane spellcaster to break its minor globe of invulnerability and four others to throw the magic missiles.
Works 9 out of 10 times.
the chance of him being paralyzed by the wand first try are 19%
Pretty sure that I have tried a wand of stunning more than 5 times in a row, times the times I have tried it (20-30) without success.
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Checking in the game, the saving throw of 1 quoted above is the unadjusted one - that's reduced to a save of 0 by the robe of the neutral archmagi. That thus means chance of being paralyzed by the wand is:
- wand of paralyzation has a save at -4, so adjusted chance of failure is 3 out of 20 or 15%.
- MR from the robe is 5% so will kick in on 1 in 20 of those occasions where saving throw is failed, leaving overall chance at just over 14%.
Remember also that if you don't succeed with your first attempt Shandalar is likely to buff up - using globe of invulnerability will prevent any further attempts from succeeding.
Save game. Use wand of stunning. Reload and try again...
How does one take him down without cheese?
My problem seems to be that every time I get him fairly wounded (used a Cleric tank and the rest of the team were using bows and darts) he bails out with his portal and leaves.
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If you want to kill Shandalar, you need to do that quite quickly. He has 80% resistance to physical damage and 100% resistance to elemental damage, but his weak link is he has no magic damage resistance. Hence things like magic missiles (particularly through minor sequencer), skull traps and unholy blight can all do good damage. Try and stagger attacks slightly in order to disrupt his attempt to buff and allow your casters another round of damage.
Spammed Psionic Crush (it bypasses MR and have a save penalty) and attacked him with 8 APR (Charname is using Thalantyr's upgraded Dagger of Venom) from the Improved Haste.
Easy as goblin pie.
I definately found the wand of paralyzation to be bugged in my game; it had no penalty on it's save, so bosses were safe. Made by Bard solo pissy as a gallon of beer, was really annoying! I had no mods either.
are you sure the save penalty didn't work in an unmodded game? my game is unmodded and my wands of paralysation come with the -4 save penalty, in fact the perfect way to test it would be to see if shandalar gets paralyzed by it, since the only way he could possibly fail would be if he had a penalty to the save