What is Kivan's sexuality? - Discuss
ARKdeEREH
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This was inspired by the thread about Minsc's sexuality. This poll is meant to be lighthearted and is not intended to offend anyone. Please do not turn this into a flame war or anything similar.
I read Kivan's biography and it mentions his "mate" several times, but makes no reference to any pronouns, which got me thinking that it is possible he isn't straight. I mean, it would be really easy for the writers to have included pronouns and the biography's writing style would have seemed more natural if they had. Also, why refer to Kivan's significant other as a "mate" and not a girlfriend/wife unless there was a reason not to (such as his spouse not being female, for instance)?
Kivan's biography is:
"When asked about his past KIVAN reveals that he hails from the forest of Shilmista, though he has not visited his homeland in some time. He has instead been traveling the world driven by the darkest of obsessions: revenge. Kivan and his mate Deheriana were apparently on a romantic sojourn years ago when they were waylaid by a group of Brigands. They were captured and tortured for the amusement of Tazok, the half-ogre that led the attack. Kivan eventually escaped, but Deheriana did not survive the encounter. Kivan is a man of few words, and obviously does not make friends easily. Likely he will not take much pleasure from life until he has revenged the death of his love."
I read Kivan's biography and it mentions his "mate" several times, but makes no reference to any pronouns, which got me thinking that it is possible he isn't straight. I mean, it would be really easy for the writers to have included pronouns and the biography's writing style would have seemed more natural if they had. Also, why refer to Kivan's significant other as a "mate" and not a girlfriend/wife unless there was a reason not to (such as his spouse not being female, for instance)?
Kivan's biography is:
"When asked about his past KIVAN reveals that he hails from the forest of Shilmista, though he has not visited his homeland in some time. He has instead been traveling the world driven by the darkest of obsessions: revenge. Kivan and his mate Deheriana were apparently on a romantic sojourn years ago when they were waylaid by a group of Brigands. They were captured and tortured for the amusement of Tazok, the half-ogre that led the attack. Kivan eventually escaped, but Deheriana did not survive the encounter. Kivan is a man of few words, and obviously does not make friends easily. Likely he will not take much pleasure from life until he has revenged the death of his love."
- What is Kivan's sexuality? - Discuss69 votes
- Kivan is homosexual - The lack of pronouns imply that Deheriana was man!10.14%
- Kivan is heterosexual - The lack of pronouns are either an oversight or imply that Deheriana was a woman!57.97%
- The lack of pronouns implies that Deheriana was a demon or some other race, where BG lists the sex as "neither!"4.35%
- Kivan is bisexual - It has been so long that when telling his story Kivan can no longer remember if Deheriana was male or female!7.25%
- Some other option (please explain)20.29%
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Kivan's sexuality doesn't change my opinion of him as a character, but it does make for an interesting/amusing discussion to pass the time while we wait for BGEE to be released.
First Minsc, now Kivan.... You know what Overhaul? Just show us goddamn trailer already. Can't you see how bored people on this forum already are?
Plus any name ending on -a is in almost all cases female.
Minsc is a Ranger
Kivan is a Ranger
Minsc loves Boo
Kivan loves Deheriana
Boo is a Hamster
Therefore Deheriana must also be a Hamster
It's pretty obvious when you think about it.
Nah, she's probably just a hamster, makes the most sense.
On a side note - you're grasping at straws here. While I enjoy slash and am a slasher myself, it's really tiresome when people try to see slash where there is none. ("Look, those two blokes appear in the same frame, like, three times in this episode! Must be love!" "Look, that guy says he's a widower, but I never saw his wife! Must be just a cover!").
So, if you want to make a poll about BG1 NPCs ambiguous sexuality, at least go for something more supportable. For example - what was the deal with Xzar and Montaron? No-one seems to know the answer. ;P
Like many have said, an -a ending implies female (in Western Romance languages). It doesn't in a number of other languages, but since the name generally reads as if it were loosely inspired by Greco-Latin roots, female is the most likely option. The 'mate' probably implies something similar t that which @Syntia13 suggested.
On the other hand, the logic of @Permidion_Stark is flawless.
Or deheriana was a man.
I've always liked Kivan, but I never in my wildest dreams saw him as gay.
I think this thread is really silly, but it doesn't make me mad, or anything.
I'm still waiting for somebody to make the inevitable "Is Jaheira Really a Lesbian?" poll thread.
Deherianna totally sounds like a woman's name, for what it's worth.
Seeing people whine about game mechanics in a couple of weeks would be a WELCOME change from these "IS X GAY/LESBIAN/BI/PANSEXUAL!?!?" threads.
Damn you Mass Effect and Dragon Age for creating these people.
Now, why I voted for bisexual. I just wanted to be different, and I think I read somewhere that all elves view both sexes equally. However, I can't remember where I read that. Of course, I could just be using my own headcanon when it comes to elves.
As for Deheriana, usually a name ending in an -a is, usually, female. However, if you go with the Minsc logic, then that must mean that Deheriana is a female hamster!
Deheriana is quite clearly a lady name... Just like Rhian and Mungri are lady names...