[Question] Pit Fiend and Lich in Ghoul Town

wolfdwarf

So I got to Ghoul Town (AR0201) for the Unseeing Eye Beholder thingie quest and I get to Ghoul Town, I took care of all the zombies, mummies, and the mayor, Theshal, and what have you. However on the way out of this area I encounter a Lich and a Pit Fiend. I was having a real hard time of it. If the Lich doesn't teleport field us all to him and the Pit Fiend, then the Pit Fiend attacks and slows/diseases my protag to uselessness. Let alone the Horrid Wilting killing half my party or Chaosing my party to complete disarray. I also need to have True Sight to dispel their illusions, but they in turn dispel my True Sight.

But then I looked it up and there is no mention of either of these guys anywhere in any guides or what have you. I think I am way underleveled for this...

So questions: am I correct in thinking that those two guys are not supposed to be in Ghoul Town ruining my good time of Beholder hunting? and if so, how can I... get rid of them? I'm not familiar with console commands but is there anyway to... delete them or something?

JuliusBorisov

Enemies are XP-based (based on your XP) in BG2, and the highest level summons are the fiend and the lich for that particular area, so it's not a bug.

What party do you have, what is the class/kit of your main character? What spells do you have memorized? This information is needed in order to help you with suggestions you can use for this fight.

wolfdwarf

Dwarven Defender, Neera, Hexxat, Misnc, Jaheria, Wilson. All around level 12.

UnderstandMouseMagic

The title of the thread sounds like a very dodgy children's book or serial.

You could have other installments in the series,

Pit Fiend and Lich go to the Seaside.
Pit Fiend and Lich in Space.
ect.

That said, (sorry but the title just jumped out at me) one of the first things to do is cast protection from evil, that should keep the PF away.
Not familiar with those NPC, do any of them have the spell?

OrlonKronsteen

UnderstandMouseMagic said:

Not familiar with those NPC, do any of them have the spell?

No cleric (druids don't get it) in the party so Neera would have to do multiple castings on the individual party members - if she has it in her spell book. But protection from evil will indeed keep the pit fiend off of you.

You might try sending an army of summons in first (Neera, Hexxat and Jahiera could provide them) - but one at a time, as the Lich will obliterate them with death spells and if all the summons go in at once they'll be wiped out in a single fell swoop. Liches have tough magical defenses (breach won't work as they're immune to 5th level spells), and at lower level the trick is tying them up with your summons until they wear off (and until the Lich has emptied the worst of its offensive spell arsenal), at which point you can go in and hack away.

You may also be able to lure the Lich into some traps with Hexxat? I'm not sure if the Lich's spell protections stop traps or not...

And @UnderstandMouseMagic - LOL on the children's book titles.

mf2112

If you cast Protection from Evil and then read a green scroll of Protection from Undead then the protected character should be able to walk right in past the pit fiend and kill the lich. Then everyone else can gang up on the pit fiend and have a reasonable chance.

Mortianna

In addition to casting Prot. from Evil on your party, Minsc (or your dwarf, if he's good aligned) could use Azureedge to possibly take out the lich in one hit.

OrlonKronsteen

All assuming his party has that gear with them.

wolfdwarf

@UnderstandMouseMagic : Pit Fiend and Lich and the Bad Touch: When No Means No.



Thanks guys... Yeah. I'm running into Lich's and Pit Fiends all over the place now...

I am now starting to get a monopoly on Protection from Evil scrolls...