No great loss as long as the intro isn't removed. I liked the little movies the 1st time i played the original, but after that i found most of them to be unnecessary.
There appear to be only 10 video files in the BG:EE movies folder. Judging by their names this means that the following videos are missing:
The Iron Throne; The Duchal Palace; The Tavern (unused in original game I think?); The Dungeon (also unused?); Bandit Camp; The Wyvern; The Temple of Bhaal; The Sewers; The Gnoll Stronghold; Beregost; Entering Durlag's Tower; Sunset; Sunrise.
If that is the case, a lot of original material has been removed without it being replaced.
There appear to be only 10 video files in the BG:EE movies folder. Judging by their names this means that the following videos are missing:
The Iron Throne; The Duchal Palace; The Tavern (unused in original game I think?); The Dungeon (also unused?); Bandit Camp; The Wyvern; The Temple of Bhaal; The Sewers; The Gnoll Stronghold; Beregost; Entering Durlag's Tower; Sunset; Sunrise.
If that is the case, a lot of original material has been removed without it being replaced.
@mister_ennui Bandit Camp and Temple of Bhaal are there.
On a later tweet I seem to remember Trent saying that they cut these videos out because they did not directly impact the storyline (thus places where they could save money if they were redoing videos). Also by not including them but including their own it doesn't cause any breaks in continuity between new videos and old.
I'm sort of fine with this, since on replays I'm kind of used to wanting to be able to skip through them. A few minor vids vs better gameplay doesn't really bother me.
You're right, the bandit camp cinematic does appear to be there. I missed it.
Which is the file with the Temple of Bhaal cinematic (I mean this one with the temple door opening before the final battle with Sarevok - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU9Hkuac-zY )? (I've been going off the names of the files and haven't watched the new movies, as I don't want to spoil seeing them for the first time in game.)
I'm actually glad they got rid of beregost. That one was just annoying to me. Not thrilled with the Gnolls fortress, especially since I think its inclusion added to some of the mystery about the place.
Unfortunately, that video was the only mystery the place actually had. Once you climbed the stairs, the only thing waiting for you was a bunch of gnolls. Most of the "mystery" was in the caves nearby, and they weren't anything to write home about either.
I'd be in favor of creating a new gnoll stronghold video if/when they ever add a dungeon element to the place. Until then, it seems like wasted frames.
Unfortunately, that video was the only mystery the place actually had. Once you climbed the stairs, the only thing waiting for you was a bunch of gnolls. Most of the "mystery" was in the caves nearby, and they weren't anything to write home about either.
I'd be in favor of creating a new gnoll stronghold video if/when they ever add a dungeon element to the place. Until then, it seems like wasted frames.
Fair enough. I can dream man. I suppose it really won't take much away. Still really glad they got rid of beregost though, that makes up for it
How about including the old videos ( ones that haven't been remastered ) but turning them off as default but having the option of turning them on for those nostalgic folks? Like myself
There appear to be only 10 video files in the BG:EE movies folder. Judging by their names this means that the following videos are missing:
The Iron Throne; The Duchal Palace; The Tavern (unused in original game I think?); The Dungeon (also unused?); Bandit Camp; The Wyvern; The Temple of Bhaal; The Sewers; The Gnoll Stronghold; Beregost; Entering Durlag's Tower; Sunset; Sunrise.
Aw, man! That list is looooong. I'm truly bummed about this.
Oh, and the tavern and the dungeon movies are used when resting, I believe.
They really should so something about the cadence of the new FAI video. Let me see... well maybe they shouldn't cut it!!! It annoys the hell outta me more than the missing videos. (although I really miss the cow...)
Well I was wrong about the bandit camp video. As @Kirkor pointed out that is included in BG:EE.
I'm pretty sure the movie titled "The Tavern" was unused in the original game - it shows the inside of the Red Sheaf Inn in Beregost and has no sound (if I remember correctly you had to modify the .ini file to access it). The one titled "The Dungeon" actually shows the basement of the Ducal Palace - i'm not too sure if it was used in the original or if it is another unused movie (it's been a while since i've played BG1).
I hope they eventually replace most if not all of the videos post release. They added to the charm of the game, and it's a loss not having them. Though I understand that in the push to meet the deadline these clearly weren't going to get as high a priority as many other things that BG:EE offers.
I watched the videos yesterday and I watched them again today, and on the second viewing I liked them a lot more. The only one I'm not pleased about is Nashkel...the landscape in the original video was much prettier and the kobold/family scene cooler.
Well I was wrong about the bandit camp video. As @Kirkor pointed out that is included in BG:EE.
I'm pretty sure the movie titled "The Tavern" was unused in the original game - it shows the inside of the Red Sheaf Inn in Beregost and has no sound (if I remember correctly you had to modify the .ini file to access it). The one titled "The Dungeon" actually shows the basement of the Ducal Palace - i'm not too sure if it was used in the original or if it is another unused movie (it's been a while since i've played BG1).
What I actualy did like about old cinematics, that they very slowly revealed location, while music was rising and rising to the moment of revealing the whole scene. It had its own atmosphere.
I'm more of the 'get rid of all in-game movies' crowd, but that is largely because some games (KOTOR) go overboard with unskippable cutscene nonsense. Anyway, I don't think I'll miss the movies that weren't included, but sort of would have preferred that they left them intact for posterity.
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The Iron Throne; The Duchal Palace; The Tavern (unused in original game I think?); The Dungeon (also unused?); Bandit Camp; The Wyvern; The Temple of Bhaal; The Sewers; The Gnoll Stronghold; Beregost; Entering Durlag's Tower; Sunset; Sunrise.
If that is the case, a lot of original material has been removed without it being replaced.
You're right, the bandit camp cinematic does appear to be there. I missed it.
Which is the file with the Temple of Bhaal cinematic (I mean this one with the temple door opening before
the final battle with Sarevok -
Discuss.
I don't think it will negatively impact my gaming experience, but I really have to play the enhanced edition to decide for sure.
I'd be in favor of creating a new gnoll stronghold video if/when they ever add a dungeon element to the place. Until then, it seems like wasted frames.
Oh, and the tavern and the dungeon movies are used when resting, I believe.
Well I was wrong about the bandit camp video. As @Kirkor pointed out that is included in BG:EE.
I'm pretty sure the movie titled "The Tavern" was unused in the original game - it shows the inside of the Red Sheaf Inn in Beregost and has no sound (if I remember correctly you had to modify the .ini file to access it). The one titled "The Dungeon" actually shows the basement of the Ducal Palace - i'm not too sure if it was used in the original or if it is another unused movie (it's been a while since i've played BG1).
It's underground of Ducal Palace.
The Tavern one, wasn't there, indeed:
So in new cinematics there are no (at least in preloaded material):
- Baldur's Gate - Beregost
Baldur's Gate - Gnoll Stronghold
Baldur's Gate - Dungeon
Baldur's Gate - Cloakwood
Baldur's Gate - Sewers
Baldur's Gate - Sunset
Baldur's Gate - Sunrise
Baldur's Gate - Iron Throne
Baldur's Gate - Candlekeep
Baldur's Gate - Duchal Palace
Baldur's Gate - Tales Of The Sword Coast - Durlag's Tower
What I actualy did like about old cinematics, that they very slowly revealed location, while music was rising and rising to the moment of revealing the whole scene. It had its own atmosphere.