Blackguard is a kit of Paladin. Think of it as a sub-class that works much like the regular class with a few tweaks. You will have to be human and evil, but that's it as far as requirements go.
Is there an explanation for how Dorn came to be a blackguard despite being half-orc?
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but it was obvious the three new NPCs were going to have above average stats. They've been future proofed for BG2, of which every NPC has spectacular stats.
But this is still BG1. If that's the reason Dorn is so mighty (and in case the others are, too), why couldn't they have toned it down a little for the first installment and upped their stats in BG2:EE?
Blackguard is a kit of Paladin. Think of it as a sub-class that works much like the regular class with a few tweaks. You will have to be human and evil, but that's it as far as requirements go.
Is there an explanation for how Dorn came to be a blackguard despite being half-orc?
There are many examples of NPCs having classes they shouldn't do. It happens
You should try to aim for at least 10 intelligence. And when you're using a merchant drag the character with the highest charisma in the top slot of the party.
Hellishreaper should aim for it but realistically if the kit is anything like other Paladin kits its going to be a difficult roll to get 10 intelligence along with 18 strength, 18 dexterity, 18 constitution, 13 wisdom, and 17 charisma (the latter two being presumably the lowest you can make them).
Edit: Sorry missed the time difference between our posts
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but it was obvious the three new NPCs were going to have above average stats. They've been future proofed for BG2, of which every NPC has spectacular stats.
But this is still BG1. If that's the reason Dorn is so mighty (and in case the others are, too), why couldn't they have toned it down a little for the first installment and upped their stats in BG2:EE?
First good point I've heard from the "Dorn is overpowered" camp. Well done.
Honestly I think he's gonna be beefed for BGII actually. Constitution of 14 is NOT a coincidence ... why not make it a 10 or a 12 or something? Because I'll bet you anything they'll buff it to 15 or 16 come BGII.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but it was obvious the three new NPCs were going to have above average stats. They've been future proofed for BG2, of which every NPC has spectacular stats.
But this is still BG1. If that's the reason Dorn is so mighty (and in case the others are, too), why couldn't they have toned it down a little for the first installment and upped their stats in BG2:EE?
Upping stats is a little ridiculous, if NPCs can get their stats upped naturally, why not the PC too? Viconia's +3 wisdom is just ridiculous from BG1 to BG2, but I totally understand why they did it, BG2 afterall is a high level campaign. It ruins the immersion for me a little, and before anyone says it, I highly doubt she found all three wisdom tomes by herself. Which also wouldn't make sense for Edwin, Jaheria and Minsc who all had similar stats increased, so what did all three share the tomes?
Just saying according to the screenshot in the Pre-load screen... wow! Sit down Minsc! I think he'll be getting my Constitution tome this game.
nice strength, but power-wise, Shar-Teel with a strength spell (18/00 strength) still rips him a new one. (being a fighter in the world of unnerfed THAC0 tables can rather up someone's murderous potential, and the difference between 18/00 and 19 is +1 dmg only.)
I haven't read every response, so perhaps this has already been said, but using a tome on someone for a +1 to stat just because that stat is low can sometimes be a VERY bad choice. Sometimes +1 to a stat does absolutely NOTHING for that character.
For instance - if your char has 14 strength, giving him/her a strength tome is utterly useless. Having 15 strength instead of 14 adds nothing to damage, thaco, or even the amount of weight you can carry. In fact the only thing it will do is add +1 to open doors (lol).
nice strength, but power-wise, Shar-Teel with a strength spell (18/00 strength) still rips him a new one. (being a fighter in the world of unnerfed THAC0 tables can rather up someone's murderous potential, and the difference between 18/00 and 19 is +1 dmg only.)
Concerning the cast-can't cast part, since the description does not specifically say "cannot cast priest spells" as it does in Inquisitor, a paladin kit will be able to cast.
So Blackguard casts normally, as does Dorn.
Now of course, i wonder if his spellbook is the same with a normal Paladin, or tweaked.
I haven't read every response, so perhaps this has already been said, but using a tome on someone for a +1 to stat just because that stat is low can sometimes be a VERY bad choice. Sometimes +1 to a stat does absolutely NOTHING for that character.
For instance - if your char has 14 strength, giving him/her a strength tome is utterly useless. Having 15 strength instead of 14 adds nothing to damage, thaco, or even the amount of weight you can carry. In fact the only thing it will do is add +1 to open doors (lol).
Yes but if Dorn had 15 Con he'd get +1 HP/level (retrospectively), so isn't a bad choice. I would usually still give it to my PC, unless it really wouldn't make any difference, though, as I don't think you'll "carry through" Dorn's stats into BG2EE, unlike CHARNAME's.
Strength Give it to Kivan. 18/12 -> 19 = +1 THAC0 +3 Damage -> +3 THAC0 +7 Damage Give it to Shar-Teel. 18/58 -> 19 = +2 THAC0 +3 Damage -> +3 THAC0 +7 Damage
Dexterity Give it to Coran. 20 -> 21 = +3 Ranged THAC0, -4 AC -> +4 Ranged THAC0, -5 AC Give it to Branwen and Dual-Class her to Thief. Give it to Xzar and Dual-Class him to Thief.
Constitution Give it to Kagain. 20 -> 21 = +5 HP/level -> +6 HP/level, slightly faster regeneration.
Intelligence Give it to Edwin. 18 -> 19 = 85% Spell Learn, Max 18 Known Spells/Level -> 95% Spell Learn, Unlimited Known Spells/Level Give it to Safana and Dual-Class her to Mage.
Wisdom Give one to Xzar and Dual-Class him to Cleric. Give two to Dynaheir and Dual-Class her to Cleric.
Charisma Give one to Ajantis to get him up to 18. Give one to Safana to get her up to 18.
Strength Give it to Kivan. 18/12 -> 19 = +1 THAC0 +3 Damage -> +3 THAC0 +7 Damage Give it to Shar-Teel. 18/58 -> 19 = +2 THAC0 +3 Damage -> +3 THAC0 +7 Damage
Dexterity Give it to Coran. 20 -> 21 = +3 Ranged THAC0, -4 AC -> +4 Ranged THAC0, -5 AC Give it to Branwen and Dual-Class her to Thief. Give it to Xzar and Dual-Class him to Thief.
Constitution Give it to Kagain. 20 -> 21 = +5 HP/level -> +6 HP/level, slightly faster regeneration.
Intelligence Give it to Edwin. 18 -> 19 = 85% Spell Learn, Max 18 Known Spells/Level -> 95% Spell Learn, Unlimited Known Spells/Level Give it to Safana and Dual-Class her to Mage.
Wisdom Give one to Xzar and Dual-Class him to Cleric. Give two to Dynaheir and Dual-Class her to Cleric.
Charisma Give one to Ajantis to get him up to 18. Give one to Safana to get her up to 18.
Now you know!
I'd give the Strength one to my main if he's a fighter, otherwise agree.
I'd give the Charisma one to my main as well, but I always take a high charisma baddie.
I'd also give the Intelligence Tome to Xzar so he and Edwin both have 18s and can get more spells / level.
Why not give strength to your main if he's a fighter?
The title does say "How to use Tomes on NPCs." I'm pretty sure we don't need a tutorial on how/when to give it to your PC ... pretty sure everyone understands that tactic.
The title does say "How to use Tomes on NPCs." I'm pretty sure we don't need a tutorial on how/when to give it to your PC ... pretty sure everyone understands that tactic.
Why not give strength to your main if he's a fighter?
The title does say "How to use Tomes on NPCs." I'm pretty sure we don't need a tutorial on how/when to give it to your PC ... pretty sure everyone understands that tactic.
Ok, who are you and what have you done with Quartz!?
If you were Quartz you would have started with a giant facepalm!
So I was thinking about Dorn's low Constitution... Then I realized, that since he won't lose any hp from it, he is a prime candidate for the Claw of Kazgaroth.
I always give the CoK to Xzar. Seems rather Necromanical anyway... and he also suffers no ill-effects.
Hoss One who is a beast that can basically do anything he wants. He is usually loved by all and a ladies man. He could break anyone or anything in half. Hoss is a compliment.
Concerning the cast-can't cast part, since the description does not specifically say "cannot cast priest spells" as it does in Inquisitor, a paladin kit will be able to cast.
So Blackguard casts normally, as does Dorn.
Now of course, i wonder if his spellbook is the same with a normal Paladin, or tweaked.
Is it confirmed that a Blackguard can cast priest spells? I assume that a Blackguard cant weild the Holy Aveneger Carsomyr or Purifier come BG2.
It's not confirmed by the devs or anyone in the beta(NDA?), but since the manual doesn't list "unable to cast priest spells" in the disadvantages, it is safe to assume he can cast.
Every Paladin kit casts, except Inquisitor, where it specifically states:" Cannot cast Priest Spells".
From a logic perspective also, if they didn't want him to cast, he would be a Fighter. Making him a Paladin and barring his spellcasting would be weird i guess. The Inquisitor doesn't feel like a Paladin after all.
Also, the Blackguard should not be able to wield Carsomyr as far as i know.
Ok, who are you and what have you done with Quartz!?
If you were Quartz you would have started with a giant facepalm!
Something is fishy here
Hahaha!
Yeah, I've seriously got Forum Poster's block recently. I'm gonna give this forum a good break when BG:EE comes out, and probably make some videos and come back with those in my repitoire.
More fun with dual classing! If you give Imoen the Con Tome, then she can dual into Conjurer or Invoker (not sure if that's still valid in the Enhanced Edition, though). If you give her the Cha Tome, then she can dual into Enchanter.
More fun with dual classing! If you give Imoen the Con Tome, then she can dual into Conjurer or Invoker (not sure if that's still valid in the Enhanced Edition, though). If you give her the Cha Tome, then she can dual into Enchanter.
According to an interview with Trent, he's in Nashkel.
but... why would you either of these? she can already dual into transmuter and illusionist. in the original BG1, illusionist was a pretty kickass choice, losing only necromancy (though the lack of horror was somewhat painful), but in BGEE, transmuter is even better, losing only abjuration (not many useful spell that others can't do), and unlike the original, she gets to keep necromancy.
the only big question is: is dualling to a spec mage allowed in BGEE? was there any definitive answer to this, anywhere? because in BG2, not only was this not allowed, but it was broken - even is you used shadowkeeper to give yourself a specialization, the game didn't give you your extra spell each level.
@DinsdalePiranha You can't dual-class into Specialist Mages in BG:EE. It uses the BGII system where they got rid of that (awesome) feature.
Regardless @Mechalibur you don't need a Constitution Tome or Charisma Tome to do either of those with Imoen. The minimum for those Mage classes is 16, and believe it or not when you could dual into Specialist Mage you only needed 17 Int and a 16 in whatever their secondary stat was (Conjurer = 16 Constitution, Illusionist = 16 Dexterity, Enchanter = 16 Charisma, etc.)
I always made Safana an Enchanter. It's very fitting.
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Edit: Sorry missed the time difference between our posts
Honestly I think he's gonna be beefed for BGII actually. Constitution of 14 is NOT a coincidence ... why not make it a 10 or a 12 or something? Because I'll bet you anything they'll buff it to 15 or 16 come BGII.
For instance - if your char has 14 strength, giving him/her a strength tome is utterly useless. Having 15 strength instead of 14 adds nothing to damage, thaco, or even the amount of weight you can carry. In fact the only thing it will do is add +1 to open doors (lol).
So be careful, and know what your stats do.
This link is priceless
So Blackguard casts normally, as does Dorn.
Now of course, i wonder if his spellbook is the same with a normal Paladin, or tweaked.
Strength
Give it to Kivan. 18/12 -> 19 = +1 THAC0 +3 Damage -> +3 THAC0 +7 Damage
Give it to Shar-Teel. 18/58 -> 19 = +2 THAC0 +3 Damage -> +3 THAC0 +7 Damage
Dexterity
Give it to Coran. 20 -> 21 = +3 Ranged THAC0, -4 AC -> +4 Ranged THAC0, -5 AC
Give it to Branwen and Dual-Class her to Thief.
Give it to Xzar and Dual-Class him to Thief.
Constitution
Give it to Kagain. 20 -> 21 = +5 HP/level -> +6 HP/level, slightly faster regeneration.
Intelligence
Give it to Edwin. 18 -> 19 = 85% Spell Learn, Max 18 Known Spells/Level -> 95% Spell Learn, Unlimited Known Spells/Level
Give it to Safana and Dual-Class her to Mage.
Wisdom
Give one to Xzar and Dual-Class him to Cleric.
Give two to Dynaheir and Dual-Class her to Cleric.
Charisma
Give one to Ajantis to get him up to 18.
Give one to Safana to get her up to 18.
Now you know!
I'd give the Charisma one to my main as well, but I always take a high charisma baddie.
I'd also give the Intelligence Tome to Xzar so he and Edwin both have 18s and can get more spells / level.
And knowing is half the battle!
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If you were Quartz you would have started with a giant facepalm!
Something is fishy here
WTF is a hoss?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hoss
One who is a beast that can basically do anything he wants. He is usually loved by all and a ladies man. He could break anyone or anything in half. Hoss is a compliment.
Yeah sounds about right.
Every Paladin kit casts, except Inquisitor, where it specifically states:" Cannot cast Priest Spells".
From a logic perspective also, if they didn't want him to cast, he would be a Fighter. Making him a Paladin and barring his spellcasting would be weird i guess. The Inquisitor doesn't feel like a Paladin after all.
Also, the Blackguard should not be able to wield Carsomyr as far as i know.
Yeah, I've seriously got Forum Poster's block recently. I'm gonna give this forum a good break when BG:EE comes out, and probably make some videos and come back with those in my repitoire.
the only big question is: is dualling to a spec mage allowed in BGEE? was there any definitive answer to this, anywhere? because in BG2, not only was this not allowed, but it was broken - even is you used shadowkeeper to give yourself a specialization, the game didn't give you your extra spell each level.
You can't dual-class into Specialist Mages in BG:EE. It uses the BGII system where they got rid of that (awesome) feature.
Regardless @Mechalibur you don't need a Constitution Tome or Charisma Tome to do either of those with Imoen. The minimum for those Mage classes is 16, and believe it or not when you could dual into Specialist Mage you only needed 17 Int and a 16 in whatever their secondary stat was (Conjurer = 16 Constitution, Illusionist = 16 Dexterity, Enchanter = 16 Charisma, etc.)
I always made Safana an Enchanter. It's very fitting.