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Yeslick : an underestimated NPC (much better than Viconia ;-) )

Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
Hey there,

I wonder why there is so much negative comments towards him, or perhaps compared with the VERY over-rated Viconia (Let's face it, Viconia from BG2 and the BG1 version have a different utility).

=> He has a good strength for a warrior Cleric.
You can give him heavy armor without problem. He can fight pretty well too.

=> He has medium dexterity : give him the gauntlets of dexterity.

=> He's got a good constitution, so you can find him reliable, and won't break in two like Vicky.

=> His intelligence is crappy, but who cares ?
=> Same for charisma.


=> Most important he has a REALLY good wisdom.
Give him the books of WISDOM, and he'll gain access to more level 4 spells.

=> Finally, he is a dwarf, and a dwarf in a party is always good.


If you arrive in the mines with Khalid and Jaheira, it is far more interesting to dump Jaheira for him (you don't have to kill her, just dismiss here inside a bulding you'll never return in or make her petrified by a basilisk).

I don't think Viconia's magic resistance so appealing in BG1 since in this game, magic is not a big deal.


So I know he is met late in-game, but this is a VERY good NPC that should be given a try.

NOTE : even though that he is met in the late part of the game, he get almost all of his Hit Points (he only looses 3 or 4 if I recall properly).


EDIT : As @Lemernis recalled it : he has a few free magic dispel as special ability ! Who can deny its usefulness ?
EDIT 2 : It seems that in fact he gains more HP than he is supposed to !
EDIT 3 : Let's start a war between Viconia fans and Yeslick fans !
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  • cyberarmycyberarmy Member Posts: 128
    He also have good "kinky" name :P
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited November 2012
    Negative comments towards him? I'm surprised. He's one of the most likable NPCs imho and a very effective cleric. His Dispel Magic special ability is highly useful (he's the poor man's Inquisitor). Mainly, I just find his personality enjoyable to have around. But then again I almost always play mixed alignment parties. Players with a preference towards evil aligned parties will find him goody-two-shoes.
  • Excalibur_2102Excalibur_2102 Member Posts: 351
    The only problem really is how late you meet him in the game :(. I remember considering taking him but didnt in the end because my party was already how I wanted it.
  • FrozenCellsFrozenCells Member Posts: 385
    I usually take Yeslick, I'd rather have a F/C than a Cleric generally. I don't really mind that you don't get him until chapter 4. It's quite easy to do the areas of the game before him without any fighter/paladin/ranger at all, I've done it several times. I don't know if he'll be in my party for BG:EE first time though since Dorn and Rasaad are enough warriors, particularly since I intend to play a F/M/T. But yeah Yeslick's alright.
  • MaconaMacona Member Posts: 70
    edited November 2012
    I've considered it before. It's viable, but Jaheira is a little better.

    Combat-wise they are pretty much the same: No bonus to damage or AC, and 3 extra HP from high Con (although Yeslick will probably have less HP at that point because you get him late.

    Spell-wise Jaheria will come on top because Druids advance faster around the mid-levels.

    EDIT: Dispel magic is a nice feature, but it's not as important in the first game.



  • Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
    edited November 2012
    Lemernis said:

    Negative comments towards him? I'm surprised. He's one of the most likable NPCs imho and a very effective cleric. His Dispel Magic special ability is highly useful (he's the poor man's Inquisitor). Mainly, I just find his personality enjoyable to have around. But then again I almost always play mixed alignment parties. Players with a preference towards evil aligned parties will find him goody-two-shoes.

    Yes but who would take an Inquistor in a game where magic users and encounters are so weak ?

    In BG2, it's very useful, but in BG1 it's "a waste of talent".


    @Macona : You said "EDIT: Dispel magic is a nice feature, but it's not as important in the first game."

    There are a few hard fights where it is very important.
    I Think of Aec'Letec and in other situations when your party is confused / paralyzed / ...
  • DinsdalePiranhaDinsdalePiranha Member Posts: 419
    Yeslick is alpha as f*ck.

    thing about his strength is, it doesn't matter. why? cast a strength (lvl 2 wizard) spell on him, that brings it up to 18/50... and then do a nice litte DUHM. congrats, you just got a hulking death machine, with 19-20 str, 18 dex (gauntlets), and 17 con. add dispel on top of everything else for a little extra pain and misery. he's pretty much one of the strongest (if not THE strongest) chars in BG1.

    also, if I remember correctly, in vanilla BG1 both him and Coran actually had *more* hit points then the legal limit, or at least one version of him did.
  • mch202mch202 Member Posts: 1,455
    edited January 2013
    Yeslick is canon in my partys.... every party needs a good dwarf!
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  • Raistlin82Raistlin82 Member Posts: 256
    Meh.
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    He also plays well with Kagain. Like brothers, those two...
  • TetraploidTetraploid Member Posts: 252
    Yeslick is great. I just wish I could get him earlier in the game!
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    Macona said:

    EDIT: Dispel magic is a nice feature, but it's not as important in the first game.

    With SCS installed (eventually SCS:EE) it matters quite a bit more, as the spellcasters become much more clever and use their spellbooks more capably.

  • recklessheartrecklessheart Member Posts: 692
    I've never had him in my party. I can't see any reason why he wouldn't be a very good character mechanically.
    But that doesn't change his dumb, annoying voiceset.
  • CheesebellyCheesebelly Member Posts: 1,727
    I remember one of my first runs ever to come till Baldur's Gate. I was always pissed because Yeslick had more health than my pure class, 18 constitution fighter. Only then I realized rolls were a thing XD

    But seriously, Yeslick is *easily* one of the best cleric NPCs in the games. I mean, yeah, Viconia is better as a cleric in BG2 but I ultimately always considered one detail : what if it's Yeslick who had 3 wisdom stats upgrades instead of Vic? Yep, he'd be the BEST divine spellcaster ever!
  • DrugarDrugar Member Posts: 1,566
    Yeslick is one of my favorites, partially because he's a dwarf, partially because he's a fighter/cleric (the best multiclass on the block), partially because he's actually a fairly important part of the main plot with a good reason to take down the bad guys.
    It's just a shame you get him so late in the game. I will be rushing to him when I play my good game though (evil game first, Doooooooooorn!)
  • Space_hamsterSpace_hamster Member Posts: 950
    Yeslick is the best GOOD cleric/fighter in the game, plus he is wicked with a hammer. Oh, and he has a good voiceset.
  • CarstonCarston Member Posts: 36
    I once had him as party leader when I filled my group with mages. But personally I don't favor either Yeslick or Viconia in BG 1, they're both good in their own ways. Difference is Vic is so easy to get and when you enter Cloakwood mines party composition is usually the way you want it to be.
  • GloktaGlokta Member Posts: 97
    Thinking of picking him up for my 2nd playthrough, but i'll bring VIconia for my first evil killing spree playthrough :)
  • Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
    Carston said:

    I once had him as party leader when I filled my group with mages. But personally I don't favor either Yeslick or Viconia in BG 1, they're both good in their own ways. Difference is Vic is so easy to get and when you enter Cloakwood mines party composition is usually the way you want it to be.

    Take 5 characters... You'll get the sixth on the way down :)

  • Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
    edited November 2012
    Kirkor said:

    Viconia has boobs. Your arguments are invalid.

    Sadly, you are right.
    I'm VERY close to believe that most people are fan of Viconia only because of her portrait in BG2.
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  • cyberarmycyberarmy Member Posts: 128
    edited November 2012

    Kirkor said:

    Viconia has boobs. Your arguments are invalid.

    Sadly, your are right.
    I'm VERY close to believe that most people are fan of Viconia only because of her portrait in BG2.
    There is not a large number of clerics to compare with her in BG2. Anomen? Aerie? Also our druids are subpar at casting.
    That makes her pretty unique even without her high dex&wis, magic resistance and looks.


    Edit: In BG1 i prefer Yeslick or Branwen to Viconia especially when im running with a "goody" party. But none of them makes in BG2 as a party member sadly.

  • CheesebellyCheesebelly Member Posts: 1,727
    Kirkor said:

    Viconia has boobs. Your arguments are invalid.

    Change Yeslick's portrait then...
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    Give Yeslick the gender-swapping belt.
  • DrugarDrugar Member Posts: 1,566
    Lemernis said:

    Give Yeslick the gender-swapping belt.

    Wouldn't even have to change his portrait if we did that. Yay dwarves!
  • KirkorKirkor Member Posts: 700
    Drugar said:

    Lemernis said:

    Give Yeslick the gender-swapping belt.

    Wouldn't even have to change his portrait if we did that. Yay dwarves!
    Dat sexy beard!
  • MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
    For real? I don't remember any Yeslick haters.

    Almost every game I'm running around with that shocking hammer in my pack specifically to give to him when I pick him up. As for Branwen, she's just keeping his armour warm.
  • zwadekzwadek Member Posts: 156
    he also isn't limited to one attack per round, so, when buffed with spells he can cause preety good havoc in the first line
  • imajasjamimajasjam Member Posts: 59
    Viconia dissing Aerie in BG2 instantly elevate her to #1 NPC status.
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