Golem stats...

marcialhd

sorry if this has been asked before but i just cannot find this information anywhere (and believe me i tried...) but i want to know, the golems summoned from the "golem manual" what are their stats? are they the same as the other golems of their respective types you fight? and what do they attacks strike as (are they +2, +3, +4, etc...)? again sorry if it has been asked before but neither the wiki nor all the other forums and pages i have read have this information but rather just how to kill the golems...

Tresset

Usually information like that isn't available unless someone like me bothers to look it up in NearInfinity and write it down. So here we go:

Tome Flesh Golem:

HP: 40
AC: 9
Strength: 19
Effective Thac0: 4
Effective Damage: 2d8+7, strikes as +3 weapon
APR: 2
Save vs. Death: 10
Save vs. Wand: 11
Save vs. Polymorph: 10
Save vs. Breath: 11
Save vs. Spell: 11
Cold Resist: 100%
Electricity Resist: 125%
Magic Resist: 100%
Poison Resist: 100%
Requires +1 weapons or better to hit.

Tome Clay Golem:

HP: 50
AC: 7
Strength: 20
Effective Thac0: 3
Effective Damage: 3d10+8, strikes as +4 weapon
APR: 1
Save vs. Death: 7
Save vs. Wand: 9
Save vs. Polymorph: 8
Save vs. Breath: 8
Save vs. Spell: 10
Fire Resist: 50%
Cold Resist: 100%
Electricity Resist: 100%
Magic Resist: 100%
Poison Resist: 100%
Slashing Resist: 100%
Piercing Resist: 100%
Missile Resist: 100%
Requires +1 weapons or better to hit.
Casts AoE Haste lasting 9 rounds on friendlies in the vicinity.

Tome Stone Golem:

HP: 60
AC: 5
Strength: 22
Effective Thac0: 3
Effective Damage: 3d8+10, strikes as +4 weapon
APR: 1
Save vs. Death: 5
Save vs. Wand: 7
Save vs. Polymorph: 6
Save vs. Breath: 5
Save vs. Spell: 8
Magic Resist: 100%
Poison Resist: 100%
Requires +2 weapons or better to hit.
Immune to slow.
Immune to Petrification.
Casts AoE Slow lasting 45 seconds (7.5 rounds) on enemies.

Tome Juggernaut Golem:

HP: 99
AC: -2
Strength: 24
Effective Thac0: -9
Effective Damage: 8d8+14, save vs. spell or be take 2d6 bonus crushing damage and be stunned for 2 rounds, strikes as +2 weapon (dont ask me why it got worse...)
APR: 2
Save vs. Death: 3
Save vs. Wand: 5
Save vs. Polymorph: 4
Save vs. Breath: 4
Save vs. Spell: 6
Fire Resist: 125%
Cold Resist: 100%
Electricity Resist: 100%
Acid Resist: 100%
Magic Resist: 100%
Poison Resist: 100%
Slashing Resist: 20%
Crushing Resist: 20%
Piercing Resist: 20%
Missile Resist: 20%
Requires +2 weapons or better to hit.
Casts Gas Cloud (Poisons enemies for 1 damage per second for 18 seconds, save vs. death at -2 to avoid)

In addition to this, all of the golems have the following immunities:
Sleep, Hold/Paralyze, Charm, Fear/Morale Break, Poison, Backstab.
All of the golems have a Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma of 9.

Lammas

Deleted, I just noticed the answer to my question was right there in the stats...

UnderstandMouseMagic

Quick follow up question if I may?

Which golem from the tomes do most people find effective?

Does the immunity of the clay golem to anything but blunt weapon damage make them more useful in spite of being technically weaker?

marcialhd

thanks Tresset this was very useful and exactly what i needed, though now i'm not sure if to upgrade the tome past clay is worth it or not though seeing as it has the better defensive stats...

Tresset

I personally prefer the juggernaut to the clay golem. While it may not be as tough to kill as the clay golem it hits WAY harder and it protects the summoner a bit with stoneskins. It is also immune to +1 weapons and has more health to help it a bit. The Gas Cloud is actually somewhat nice if your enemies fail saves regularly. It will attempt to apply another poison to all the enemies inside it for every round they remain inside. These poison effects stack with each other, and can really hurt if the enemy gets poisoned several times.

By the way, I added more info about the attacks of the golems, specifically what type of magical weapon their attacks count as. In the case of the juggernaut golem, I added some info I missed about its attack, specifically I missed that its fists actually add a bonus to hit (unusual for creature weapons) and have a stunning effect.

marcialhd

Tresset said:

I personally prefer the juggernaut to the clay golem. While it may not be as tough to kill as the clay golem it hits WAY harder and it protects the summoner a bit with stoneskins. It is also immune to +1 weapons and has more health to help it a bit. The Gas Cloud is actually somewhat nice if your enemies fail saves regularly. It will attempt to apply another poison to all the enemies inside it for every round they remain inside. These poison effects stack with each other, and can really hurt if the enemy gets poisoned several times.

By the way, I added more info about the attacks of the golems, specifically what type of magical weapon their attacks count as. In the case of the juggernaut golem, I added some info I missed about its attack, specifically I missed that its fists actually add a bonus to hit (unusual for creature weapons) and have a stunning effect.

thanks man this is really appreciated! and on the matter of the golem i think i will keep the clay or the stone one if only because the juggernaut seems so weak in comparison (seriously 15k gold for a creature that strikes as a +2 in ToB?, no thanks...)

marcialhd

now i have another question right now i'm using near infinity and want to make some small changes to the juggernaut golem if only to make it more useful, soo i have to ask where do i find his weapon enchanment and immunity to weapons effects?, i ask mostly because i want to buff his weapons from +2 to +5 and his weapon immunity to +3 in order to make him more useful and because i want him to be actually worth getting, seriously both the clay and the stone golem strike as +4 and the stone golem is immune to +2 already and with these changes at least it would be similar to the iron golems its supposed to be based on.

Tresset

To change the immunity to requiring +3 weapons to beat you need to go to the creature file for the Juggernaut (Tomegol4.cre) and change the item equipped in the left ring slot from "Immune2.itm" to "Immune3.itm". To increase the enchantment of the golem's weapon without adding a to hit bonus, you need to go to its item file (Goltome4.itm) and change the number in the "enchantment" field from "2" to "5".

The attached file has this already done for you, if you are interested. Just extract it to Override.

marcialhd

Tresset said:

To change the immunity to requiring +3 weapons to beat you need to go to the creature file for the Juggernaut (Tomegol4.cre) and change the item equipped in the left ring slot from "Immune2.itm" to "Immune3.itm". To increase the enchantment of the golem's weapon without adding a to hit bonus, you need to go to its item file (Goltome4.itm) and change the number in the "enchantment" field from "2" to "5".

The attached file has this already done for you, if you are interested. Just extract it to Override.

wow! thanks man! i owe you one though you should totally post this file as mod so that way more people can benefit from it, heck you can maybe request to add it to Tweaks Anthology, at least that way more people would consider using the Juggernaut over the other golems and i would actually justify its "upgrade" cost.

Tresset

Well, I do have my own little tweak pack. I thought about adding this to it even before you asked how to do it, but I just didn't get around to it. I will probably put it in there eventually.