Deck of Many things - Star draw for Imoen

Ridcully

How come Imoen gets a Dex increase rather than an Int increase on a Star draw? Unmodded game so she was at Thief 7 / Mage 20

Ridcully

Wondering if there is something up with Dual class characters. Just tried Anomen and he got +1 str rather than Wis

Zaxares

I think it's because it uses their original class instead of their current class for determining the prime stat for the Star card, yeah. Kinda silly, but there you have it. You could always edit your save game with EE Keeper and swap around the stat bonus though!

iosfrustration

They say that nothing is ever truly gone from the internet - however, since I've been on the internet since before the web im coming to realise that this is not entirely true. Many Web 1.0 resources are either gone altogether (geocities?) or indexed so poorly that they are now undiscoverable (newsgroups) or victim or revisionist history (gamefaqs?)

The finer details of the "star" draw is one of these things that used to be quite easy to find, but is now either innacuratley described in wikis, or missing critical details

My imperfect recollection based on stuff I read 20(?!?!) years ago is as follows
For multi class the ARCANE spell casting class is selected first, then the DIVINE spell casting class, then im not sure
For dual class the ORIGINAL class is selected
For all others the current class is selected
then bonus is applied as follows
fight/barb/pal/ranger = +str.
mage/sorc = +int.
thief/bard = +dex
monk/cleric/druid = +wis

So in the two cases above
Imoen is a Theif dualed to mage, so theif is selected = + dex
Anomen is a Fighter dualed to cleric, so fighter is selected = + str

and some of my other favorites
Aerie is a Mage/Cleric multiclass so Arcane is selected so she gets +int (sill not enough to scribe L9 scrolls)
Jaheria Fighter/Druid multiclass so Divine is selected so she gets +wis (still not enough to get the really good bonus spells)

Ridcully

Weird. I tried Jaheria and she got +1 Str

iosfrustration

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/1089160#Comment_1089160

Rats, my recollection is not as good as I had hoped then

Not sure my the error is in the Dual class bit (maybe active class, not original class?) or in the "spellcasting favoured" bit

Can anyone else help us out?

Zaxares

Multiclass characters might work different to dual-class characters. The key test would be to try using Aerie for the Star card; I believe that, in EE at least, she's a Cleric/Mage, so if multiclass characters use their first class to determine the stat boost she should get Wisdom.

kjeron

If
	  OR(2)
	Class(LastTalkedToBy,BARD_ALL)
	Class(LastTalkedToBy,THIEF_ALL)
THEN Dex
else if 
	Class(LastTalkedToBy,MAGE_ALL)
Then Int
else if
	  OR(2)
	Class(Player1,CLERIC_ALL)
	Class(Player1,DRUID_ALL)
	!Class(Player1,SHAMAN)
Then Wis
else Str

Bard, Thief, C/T, F/T, M/T, F/M/T = DEX
Mage, Sorcerer, C/M, F/M, F/M/C = INT
Cleric, Druid, F/D, F/C, R/C = WIS
Fighter, Monk, Shaman, Paladin, Ranger = STR

Dualclasses are assigned the same as their respective multiclass.

However, there is a significant issue with the Wisdom check, it checks the class of "Player1", not "LastTalkedToBy". So the Wisdom boost will only be applied if Player1 is also some form of Cleric or Druid, but not Shaman. This was likely broken when the code for the Shaman was added.

Ridcully

That would make sense, as when Jaheria got Str +1 I had a F/M in position one. Just wish Imoen could get Int +1

jmerry

Ridcully wrote: »

Just wish Imoen could get Int +1

Eh, not a big deal. Everything you need Int for, aside from minimum class requirements, can be handled with temporary Int. Just drink potions of genius/mind focusing for your spell scribing, and you're good. Another point of Dex for Imoen, in contrast, boosts all of her thief skills by 5 and gets her +1 to hit when attacking with ranged weapons.

gorgonzola

Yep the way INT is implemented a mage with a only average value is as good as a 18 INT one. Just a less user friendly as jou have to plan the use if the potions of genius, learning with each potion many spells at once, usually when a fundamental spell scroll is found.

Balrog99

Drinking multiple potions of genius might be kinda fun!

butteredsoul

Balrog99 wrote: »

Drinking multiple potions of genius might be kinda fun!

They stack, after all!