Irenicus dungeon genie

Arthas

Can someone explain why the genie tells you that you are a coward if you are not going to press the button?

I don't understand how he thinks you are "good" if you press it.

Permidion_Stark

I think the idea is that you are good for pressing the button because it is the only possible way to save your sibling's life. However, pressing the button means that you will die. If you don't press the button you may live but your sibling will definitely die, which is why it is presented as the cowardly option.

The choices the genie presents work as follows:

You press the button, your sibling doesn't = you die, your sibling lives
You don't press the button, your sibling does = you live, your sibling dies
Neither of you press the button = you both die
Both of you press the button = you both die

Arthas

Ah, I don't know why, I think I misread the question. I thought that if the sibling pressed the button and charname didn't , the sibling would have lived.

Thank you.

lroumen

Basically, unless someone sacrifices him- or herself you all die. It is a stupid riddle that only gives the best option for characters with a death wish. It has nothing to do with bravery or alignment.

It also makes no statement on how close you are to your sibling. Suppose the sibling in question is one of the evil bhaalspawn, then you would likely do better to not press anything; then again they likely won't so you die anyway, but still. It only works out if you know your sibling is in your eyes good/worth saving and know who it is, and they don't know who you are and are in conflict on what to do or believe you are bad to their point of view.

Skatan

It's based on the "the prisoners dilemma", but changed so it makes less sense than the classic version. I've never liked it, but I always click the button since it nets you slightly more EXP.

Balrog99

Pushing the button = Active
Not pushing = Passive

My Charname always goes for the eyes!

gorgonzola

Charname does not have to press or not a button, he has to give an answer.
Answer that does not affect the life of a sibling that is not really there, only the opinion about you the genie has.
It is quite obvious that to press the button is the answer that more pleases the genie, and there is no meta gaming in it.

ThacoBell

@lroumen That's a very lawful evil justification. Risking your life to save another's is one of the biggest acts of good one can do according to many different systems of morality.

lroumen

It is not risking your life if you are certain to die. At least the prisoners dilemma had the risk your life option.
Note that there is absolutely no neutral response to this. How do you think they would act here?

I will not deny supposed evil tendencies. I'd rather call it self preservation. I'm not good to anyone dead.

Jaheiras_Witness

As far as my PC is concerned, the only sibling I know of at the time is Sarevok. So am I gonna press the button? No frigging way. Just spent months trying to kill the sod.

"I refuse to answer the question"

Blackbɨrd

As the famous saying goes ''it takes one to know one'', the genie himself is a tremendous coward. Why else would the genie send weaklings to attack you, when he could attack you himself?