I sacrificed Imoen at Resurrection Gorge
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I recorded the whole thing in the YouTube video below. It was actually pretty funny, probably one of the most evil things one can do in the game when you think about it.
https://youtu.be/hSY8UxdIcBM
https://youtu.be/hSY8UxdIcBM 4
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Oh, definitely. The most evillest of deeds was in fact, not killing Imoen earlier.
Would certainly be a glorious day if that happened.
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I hope Irenicus wins full stop. Like, whenever I'm reading someone else's playthrough I'm just rooting and gunning for Irenicus to win.
The dark side is rooted into this game, is a part of it, even if it is possible to play it in a good oriented way, if not for the main quest problem.
So let the people that like to bath themselves in the turbid waters of the dark side share their feelings here.
I always RP in a good way, even when I play a neutral charname, and I can not force myself in having a couple of evil NPCs join my party, so I completely miss half of the EE added content. For the very same reason that I could not force myself to RP let's say a pedophile in a game, as I think that some things that can be RP in this game are even worst, much worst then pedophile, we are talking of massacres for no reason and worshiping demons.
But as the dark side is part of this game i find normal, and not so much disturbing, that some players that like to RP it share their experience on the forums, so I don't have any problem with this thread or let's say the other in which @Aerie, one of the npc more rooted in goodness is transformed in a very evil charname.
I don't mind if she plays hard to get
Not really no. I never understood that appeal of being evil. Its not even fun to pretend.
I say people can play however they want without being judged.
So they are and act like Chaotic Neutral people
Personally I normally play as evil or chaotic neutral (doing some things, some things bad whatever I want etc), however I can see the appeal of playing good. I can see the appeal of ''good'' classes such as paladin and rangers and find them appealing classes, I can also see the appeal of good weapons (holy avenger, purifier etc), I can see the appeal of good strongholds even though I normally play evil (ranger stronghold for example) and I see the appeal of interesting good characters such as Keldorn, Aerie, Minsc etc.
Surely you can understand and see some of the appeal of playing evil, saying that you ''never understood that appeal of being evil'' comes across as ignorant considering that there is much appeal to being evil. Items such as the Human flesh, really great characters such as Edwin, Viconia and Korgan (who are all evil), strongholds where there are evil options (Cleric of Talos) and even evil-related new content (for example Dorn's quest).
Saying that you can't understand the appeal of being evil, means you are either being ridiculous or lying/exaggerating. You can't see the appeal of some great and interesting characters like Edwin? You can't see the appeal of playing new content and additions to the game (three or four new locations) which are Hexxat and Dorn's quests. I can understand not liking playing evil (whic makes sense), but saying you can't see any appeal of playing evil is ridiculous.
i don't think that a person that RP an evil charname has to be evil also in the RL, not even the kind of evil person that disguises himself as following his evil attitude would get more problems then benefits, so has to live that part of his personality in a game.
some people can rp to be in a game something completely different from what they are in the RL because they are curious, not chaotic, and they want to see how it would be if they were completely different from how they are, or maybe because they are bored to play always the same good oriented charname and want to try something that allow them different party compositions and choices.
some other people, like me, just can't. they can not RP to be something completely different to what they are in the RL, can not even think of killing people for no reason or for personal profit or to side with dark forces, being it in the RL or in the fiction of a game.
so as i don't feel the appeal of being evil, i had made a clear choice in RL, as anyone but maybe a couple of saints in each millennia has a dark side inside him, and that choice prevents me to have any fun in RP an evil run.
it just disgust me, like to RP to sexually abuse of children would disgust me, and i don't have any fun in RP something that disgust me, even if i have no problem if other people like to do it and to share their experiences on the forums.
i know that i am missing something, and i really don't appreciate how Beamdog embraced the "dark side of
the force" in creating its new content, making at least half of it not available for those that don't like to play evil and creating new npcs whose level of evilness is way beyond how the evil npcs of the original game was.
i could never play hexxat and dorn quest, as i could never side with bodhi or have edwin in the party in the original game, but i really prefer to not do something that really disgust me, even if done in a game, then to play some content that i actually had payed money for.
and as i am not lying or exaggerating probably i am ridiculous, but i really prefer to be so then to disgust myself doing in a game things that are the exact opposite of the way i believe is worth to live my life.
That is a fair assesstment. And pretty much on point why I do enjoy roleplaying: the ability to "play" personas different from the real me. Hence why I also adamantly refuse rolling human characters inside RPG's. I already do so IRL after all. No point in becoming another hairless ape inside games as well, now is there?
No I really can't. I take no joy in causing harm. Even to digital people. Its just unpleasant.
No I really can't. I take no joy in causing harm. Even to digital people. Its just unpleasant.
Hey man, thanks for sharing that. Really interesting read, I love the sound of that blackguard by the way.
i find it disturbing even if it is in a computer game context, but i fail to see a reason why only some of those things are forbidden in that context, while in the RL many more of those are forbidden. in the RL to kill people for no reason is sanctioned at least as hard as pedophilia, but in a game many people has no problem at all in having evil charnames slaughtering every people they find, while when a mod introduced a romanceable 15 years old paladin a lot of problems arose, when in RL there is a lot of people that at 15 years age has an active sexual life, but to kill people for money or fun is surely not allowed.
i find to read such things when are related to RL facts way more disturbing, no doubt about it, when i read of real people living in slavery like conditions, of teenagers used as soldiers that have lost any inhibition to kill or use violence, of ethnic massacres and such things it disturbs me a lot more then when i read of some players having fun in having imoen sacrificed to a demon.
but if a person can find or not find something disturbing is something very subjective, and maybe the "evil ones" should had better not try to mock @ThacoBell when he expressed his feelings about the topic, it is also true that those "evil ones" have all the right to share in the forums their way to have fun in the game, as the evil way is surely one of the possible ways this game is intended for, while it is impossible to complete it in a real LG way, as a real LG charname would never side with vampires or thieves and assassins to try to make a person evade from a prison, but would instead try to have that person released in the proper LG way, like happens when nalia is in prison.
EDIT: but also to fail to see why other people can have fun in joining the dark side in a RP game is to lack of respect for the subjective point of view and taste of other players, even if i am not completely sure that this has been done in the thread as "i can not understand the appeal of...." can mean that from your subjective point of view you don't see how you can have fun in doing such things as well as can mean that you fail to understand why other people have fun doing them.
I think his point is that "seeing the appeal" is about that you show recognition that others see benefits in playing evil, not necessarily that you personally want the benefits of it.
As example I think you would not make the human leather armor upgrade given what you need to do for it, but you would admit that the armor has undeniable benefits for those players that do create it (hypothetically, I don't know your point of view in this).
I feel the discussion is a bit exploding over semantics.
About the op. I never played with dorn yet through SoA and ToB but I should do so to see where this leads.
@lroumen "I think his point is that "seeing the appeal" is about that you show recognition that others see benefits in playing evil, not necessarily that you personally want the benefits of it."
Doesn't change anything. The idea that someone would enjoy harming others for "entertainment" is alien to me, and more than a little disturbing.