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jmerry wrote: »
You have spent many posts ragging on the offensive power of the werewolf form ... and not one sentence on its defensive power. That's the real reason to transform - fantastic AC and resistances. And those do get better with epic druid levels, because they stack with the class bonuses.
Khyron wrote: »
And what exactly, jmerry, do you expect to be tanking with 0 physical resistances and a -1/-10 ac?
Sure you got stoneskins.. but with a -1/-10 ac that's not gonna last you long.. then there's low hp and 0 resistances.
Khyron wrote: »
Best tank bar none? Heh.. that's cute.
Fighter/Clerics? Fighter/Mage? Blades? Swashbuckler?-yes really. Paladins/Blackguards? Rangers? Berserkers?
Don't be ridiculous.. a few stoneskins gets ripped off easy in a few rounds.
The protections given by Armor of Faith, Easthaven and Hardiness combined - which also lasts long makes stoneskins look like a cantrip.. also.. a Dwarven Def. can also use the Easthaven flail and combine with other strengths.
40% magic resistance? For any char that wants MR, 40% is easily achieved by combining gear, Bhaal tear and Machine of Lum.. surpassing 40% is just as easy.
I get it.. you liked it. But you can't say it's great when; everything it does - someone else does better by quite a stretch.
It' a bad kit. I'm sorry about that, but it's true.
Thac0 is bad, Phys.resist is bad, ac isn't great, low hp compared to most other physical tanks, low damage per hit, no whirlwind attack, no critical strike hla, no Hardiness, no Easthaven, no skills like Blur or PfMW..
It doesn't tank well, it doesn't do damage well and it doesn't offer any other things like traps, special CC immunities or anything.. It's a druid with gear restrictions and a (BG1 exempt) fairly useless transformation.
It offers a different playstyle to many other kits, but it does this at a cost of actual power.
A Fighter/Cleric and Fighter/Druid are both comparable in their roles - divine casting with strong melee contribution.. and they just blow a WW so far out of the water that there's just no contest at all.
I would argue that even a Priest of Helm and Priest of Lathander kitted single class cleric is better than a WW at everything, melee included. Level 1-4 exempt.
Yes, you can complete the game with one. But it truly doesn't come out of a round of comparisins very well.. and that is why people don't like it.
laszlolaszlo wrote: »
The reason many gamers feel cheated (me included) about the Shapeshifter kit is either; 1. They had unrealistic expectations from the start, beliving the Shapeshafter would be as good of a warrior as the fighter, when in reality that would make it very broken. Or 2. They expected the kit to function exactly as the enemy werewolfs in the game.
No matter how you feel about the kit, i think it's fair to say that it would have been a good idea to improve the werewolf form at later levels, just as the monk get bonuses to AC and fists.