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Garrick as a model for a PC

I love Garrick. I know he is not very popular, but I love his personality, He is too very useful, even if with his relatively low Int, he fails a lot when he tries to learn spells. I like his naiveness, his credulity. The only thing that i do not undertand in his character is his alignment. He seems to me more like a CG character than a CN. But, generally, all CN characters seem closer to CG than to "true CN" (the way I underatnd it, pure selfish free-spirits).
So I think I will try to model a PC based on him. But it will be a woman, less intelligent then Imoen, less agile, perhaps even with less charisma. Not so bright, to be honest, she sings a bit out of tune, will learn spells but with difficulties, but during her adventures, will learn and progress. So no Min Max and 18 in her abilities. Let's see whet will happen to her ...
But which alignment should I give to her ? CN like Garrick ? N or even NG ? Or CG with EEKeeper ?

JuliusBorisovPermidion_StarkFenrirWolfganger

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  • RigelRigel Member Posts: 223
  • RigelRigel Member Posts: 223
    So here we go, Cordelia Fairlady, Half elf bard, CN (I may change her alignment to CG with EEKeeper because I want to try the Ajantis romance)
    F 10 C 10 D 14 I 15 W 11 C 16
    We'll see what will happen to her...

    Permidion_StarkJuliusBorisovFenrirWolfganger
  • jsavingjsaving Member Posts: 1,029
    edited April 12
    In your initial meet-up, making the evil rather than good choice causes Garrick to permanently leave the MC, while the good choice earns his respect. So yes, Garrick's alignment is incorrectly coded as CN rather than CG, just as Jaheira's is incorrectly coded as TN rather than NG.

    RigelFenrirWolfganger
  • ChroniclerChronicler Member Posts: 1,341
    While the player may often play neutral as a character who can take good or evil options in quests, "Neutral" doesn't actually have to mean "Completely fine with the wholesale slaughter of innocents".

    RigelIseweinJuliusBorisovFenrirWolfganger
  • Permidion_StarkPermidion_Stark Member Posts: 4,613
    Rigel wrote: »
    So here we go, Cordelia Fairlady, Half elf bard, CN (I may change her alignment to CG with EEKeeper because I want to try the Ajantis romance)
    F 10 C 10 D 14 I 15 W 11 C 16
    We'll see what will happen to her...

    Which sound set are you using for her? I always find one of the hardest things when trying to create a new character is finding a voice to suit.

    RigelFenrirWolfganger
  • RigelRigel Member Posts: 223
  • RigelRigel Member Posts: 223
    @Permidion_Stark I play a lot of halflings or gnomes (female) and I usually use the voice with the sentence " I am on it like ugly on an orc". I love it, so funny.
    Once I played a Barbarian and I used the one with the strong accent (scottish ? welsh ? ) "I ll get in a minute guv".

    Permidion_StarkFenrirWolfganger
  • DinoDinDinoDin Member Posts: 1,326
    I find Garrick to be a fine and somewhat underrated NPC. There are only two bards, and one is evil and acquired somewhat late. So, in many ways, Garrick is the only NPC bard on the party. But BG1 offers a lot of good items for him, that help make up for his weak stats. The crossbow of speed, the various short swords. Even some of the throwing axes can work if you go that specialization. Several good chain mails as well.

    I often find Garrick works well alongside one of the specialist mages, allowing you to pick up the useful skills that are not in their school. While not having to burn a second party slot on another character with terrible Thaco and gear limits. I find that to be a stronger setup than two pure mages. That being said, he's still not quite as good as having a sorcerer or thief-mage.

    The later half of the game also throws a bunch of mage-only items as rewards, and Garrick makes excellent use of these. I've also found the bardsong to be a useful timer for trap detection.

    Much of this can also apply to a bard MC if you like. I think they pair well with one of the specialist mage NPC's. Xan probably being the best candidate. The evocation damage spells scale with level, and the bard will level faster.

    RigelFenrirWolfganger
  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 1,710
    DinoDin wrote: »
    The later half of the game also throws a bunch of mage-only items as rewards, and Garrick makes excellent use of these.
    A lot of mage items aren't usable by bards, though. No archmage robes, no Evermemory ring. The elven chain is the only armor that a bard can wear and cast spells with in the unmodded game, and the only way to get it is to do Dorn's quest.

  • ChroniclerChronicler Member Posts: 1,341
    edited April 13
    There are very few companions in BG1 who can use both bows (or crossbows) and arcane magic.

    There's him, there's the other bard, there's dual classed Imoen, and then there's Safana if you give her the tome of intelligence and then dual class her.

    Bows and arcane magic are some of the most powerful tools at your disposal in BG1. While Garrick may not be a master archer or an archmage supreme, there is a lot of value in the fact that he can do both. Mages have a fair bit of down time between spells, especially in BG1, so the ability to plug away at enemies with crossbow bolts when you're not casting is pretty great.

    As far as his stats go, he doesn't have a whole lot of spell slots, so his intelligence isn't that big a deal. You only really need to successfully scribe a couple spells per level. His Dex is perfectly solid for keeping him in the backline so stuff like the constitution and strength isn't that big a deal. In a pinch you can use a mage protection spell and he'll be hardier than any of your fighters anyway.

    DinoDinFenrirWolfganger
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