Deck of Many things - Star draw for Imoen

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• Ridcully Member Posts: 179

  August 2019

  Wondering if there is something up with Dual class characters. Just tried Anomen and he got +1 str rather than Wis

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• Zaxares Member Posts: 1,333

  August 2019

  I think it's because it uses their original class instead of their current class for determining the prime stat for the Star card, yeah. Kinda silly, but there you have it. You could always edit your save game with EE Keeper and swap around the stat bonus though!

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• iosfrustration Member Posts: 153

  August 2019

  They say that nothing is ever truly gone from the internet - however, since I've been on the internet since before the web im coming to realise that this is not entirely true. Many Web 1.0 resources are either gone altogether (geocities?) or indexed so poorly that they are now undiscoverable (newsgroups) or victim or revisionist history (gamefaqs?)
  
  The finer details of the "star" draw is one of these things that used to be quite easy to find, but is now either innacuratley described in wikis, or missing critical details
  
  My imperfect recollection based on stuff I read 20(?!?!) years ago is as follows
  For multi class the ARCANE spell casting class is selected first, then the DIVINE spell casting class, then im not sure
  For dual class the ORIGINAL class is selected
  For all others the current class is selected
  then bonus is applied as follows
  fight/barb/pal/ranger = +str.
  mage/sorc = +int.
  thief/bard = +dex
  monk/cleric/druid = +wis
  
  So in the two cases above
  Imoen is a Theif dualed to mage, so theif is selected = + dex
  Anomen is a Fighter dualed to cleric, so fighter is selected = + str
  
  and some of my other favorites
  Aerie is a Mage/Cleric multiclass so Arcane is selected so she gets +int (sill not enough to scribe L9 scrolls)
  Jaheria Fighter/Druid multiclass so Divine is selected so she gets +wis (still not enough to get the really good bonus spells)
  
  
  
  
  
  

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• Ridcully Member Posts: 179

  August 2019

  Weird. I tried Jaheria and she got +1 Str

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• iosfrustration Member Posts: 153

  August 2019

  https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/1089160#Comment_1089160

  Rats, my recollection is not as good as I had hoped then

  Not sure my the error is in the Dual class bit (maybe active class, not original class?) or in the "spellcasting favoured" bit

  Can anyone else help us out?

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• Zaxares Member Posts: 1,333

  August 2019

  Multiclass characters might work different to dual-class characters. The key test would be to try using Aerie for the Star card; I believe that, in EE at least, she's a Cleric/Mage, so if multiclass characters use their first class to determine the stat boost she should get Wisdom.

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• kjeron Member Posts: 2,368

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  If
  	  OR(2)
  	Class(LastTalkedToBy,BARD_ALL)
  	Class(LastTalkedToBy,THIEF_ALL)
  THEN Dex
  else if 
  	Class(LastTalkedToBy,MAGE_ALL)
  Then Int
  else if
  	  OR(2)
  	Class(Player1,CLERIC_ALL)
  	Class(Player1,DRUID_ALL)
  	!Class(Player1,SHAMAN)
  Then Wis
  else Str
  

  
  Bard, Thief, C/T, F/T, M/T, F/M/T = DEX
  Mage, Sorcerer, C/M, F/M, F/M/C = INT
  Cleric, Druid, F/D, F/C, R/C = WIS
  Fighter, Monk, Shaman, Paladin, Ranger = STR
  
  Dualclasses are assigned the same as their respective multiclass.
  
  However, there is a significant issue with the Wisdom check, it checks the class of "Player1", not "LastTalkedToBy". So the Wisdom boost will only be applied if Player1 is also some form of Cleric or Druid, but not Shaman. This was likely broken when the code for the Shaman was added.

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• Ridcully Member Posts: 179

  August 2019 edited August 2019

  That would make sense, as when Jaheria got Str +1 I had a F/M in position one. Just wish Imoen could get Int +1

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• jmerry Member Posts: 3,985

  August 2019

  Ridcully wrote: »

  Just wish Imoen could get Int +1

  Eh, not a big deal. Everything you need Int for, aside from minimum class requirements, can be handled with temporary Int. Just drink potions of genius/mind focusing for your spell scribing, and you're good. Another point of Dex for Imoen, in contrast, boosts all of her thief skills by 5 and gets her +1 to hit when attacking with ranged weapons.

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• gorgonzola Member Posts: 3,864

  August 2019

  Yep the way INT is implemented a mage with a only average value is as good as a 18 INT one. Just a less user friendly as jou have to plan the use if the potions of genius, learning with each potion many spells at once, usually when a fundamental spell scroll is found.

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• Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371

  August 2019

  Drinking multiple potions of genius might be kinda fun!
  
  
  

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• butteredsoul Member Posts: 168

  August 2019

  Balrog99 wrote: »

  Drinking multiple potions of genius might be kinda fun!

  They stack, after all!

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