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"Maybe this time" [NO-RELOAD THREAD]: "The Tale of TEN THOUSAND Trials"

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  • ArviaArvia Member Posts: 2,101
    @jmerry , are you absolutely sure? I have been told that the penalty increases for spells that you can't cast yet. Is that wrong? Or was it in the old game?

  • NeverusedNeverused Member Posts: 803
    @jmerry Could that be another effect of the Kit - None bug that confused a ton of players for a very long time? The saving throws bug were closed at https://support.baldursgate.com/issues/31342, but if Kit - None is also messing with spell-learning...
  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 3,829
    edited August 2019
    @Neverused
    Very probably. The likes of Garrick, Safana, Aerie, and Nalia all have kit "Base Class", and learn spells at the listed rate (+1%). Anything other than "Base Class", including a blank (like Imoen in both games), and a character is treated as a specialist for spell learning purposes.
    (Added in edit) I tried setting Imoen to "Base Class" in EEKeeper. That fixes it for her. 493/500 successes at 21 Int (97% listed chance).
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  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,317
    semiticgod wrote: »
    Okay, I'm midway through a new poverty run and I'm right at the Ducal Palace, though I'm not sure how things are going to play out from there, since I just have a level 8 sorcerer Charname and five other sorcerers still at level 6. @Grond0, would it work if I tried layering a whole bunch of Webs on the map and then pinned down the doppelgangers with Magic Missiles? Would I need to cast Web after the doppelgangers transformed? Because I'm guessing the nobles themselves would just get stuck due to their poor saves and fail to transform. It might be a good idea to just trap half of the nobles with Web and then use the extra rounds of safety to thin the herd before the dukes get in trouble.

    I can't remember exactly what happens (and am not sure if I've tried it in the EE), but I do remember concluding web didn't work well as a tactic. I have a feeling that may be because being held by the web doesn't prevent the transformation. Once the hold effect disappears for the dopplegangers, the web may well just help them finish off the dukes extremely quickly ;). I think you would need to test to be sure of what happens though ...
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