Who Gets the Throne of Bhaal if CHARNAME dies?
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It remains a mystery why the old sage Gorion decided to leave the safe haven of Candlekeep with his young ward CHARNAME, or why they were attacked shortly after leaving the fortress library. All that we know is that Gorion was found brutally slain a short distance from Candlekeep's walls, and that his ward, upon arriving at the Friendly Arm Inn, was killed by a wizard named Tarnesh. The motives for the killings remain unknown.
However, sages speculate that the killings were somehow related to the so-called "Bhaalspawn Crisis" which culminated about six months later with the destruction of Saradush and the ensuing battles throughout Tethyr, and with the ascension of the new God of Murder.
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Well, if CHARNAME is killed, who ends up as the new Lord or Lady of Murder? (Or, who beats the rest and then chooses to remain mortal?)
However, sages speculate that the killings were somehow related to the so-called "Bhaalspawn Crisis" which culminated about six months later with the destruction of Saradush and the ensuing battles throughout Tethyr, and with the ascension of the new God of Murder.
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Well, if CHARNAME is killed, who ends up as the new Lord or Lady of Murder? (Or, who beats the rest and then chooses to remain mortal?)
- Who Gets the Throne of Bhaal if CHARNAME dies?164 votes
- SAREVOK rises to power in Baldur's Gate, travels south and defeats the opposition.30.49%
- GROMNIR IL-KHAN breaks out from Saradush and smashes the rest of the bunch.1.22%
- ILLASERA THE QUICK outruns her siblings in the race for the throne.1.22%
- YAGA-SHURA is invinsible! He crushes everyone and takes his father's place.3.05%
- SENDAI sics her statues on the others and wins the ultimate prize.2.44%
- ABAZIGAL is a Dragon. 'Nuff said!6.71%
- BALTHAZAR wins, because Monks rule!6.10%
- MELISSAN usurps her dead master's throne.27.44%
- IMOEN outwits everyone else and does what her sibling couldn't do!16.46%
- SOMEBODY ELSE! (Please elaborate.)4.88%
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Or Chinchilla.
I think Sarevok seems like the most likely winner. However, Im sort of unsure how his war with Amn would have gone, isnt Amn a lot stronger than Baldur's Gate? If he could defeat Amn, he might have found a way to outwit Melissan.
(I admit that Melissan seems formidable, but I'd MUCh rather have Sarevok win than that cry-baby ^^)
Honestly, though, Amelysan probably would have won. I mean, the Five seem to be pretty dense.
No one will tell Sarevok the secret how to kill Yaga, and obviously he is too dumb to find out
Plus, Sarevok knows how to build up a good party
Charname get inn to Bhaals domain trough a pocketplane. The other spawns do not.
Bhaal plan was that all spawns would fight it out and inn the prosses feed the power back to Bhaal.
Besides, he's got like the entire city of Baldur's Gate at his command. That's gotta count for SOMETHING.
Probable Timeline: Charname dies
Elminster, Harpers, Zhentarim, etc disrupt the iron shortage plan too late
Scar, Eltan, Entar, Belt, etc get assassinated
Sarevok elected Duke
Baldur's Gate wars with Amn
Amnish army beats Baldur's Gate. Angelo Dies, Semaj dies, Tazok dies, etc
Sarevok doesnt ascend because theres still too much Bhaal essence out there. Now hes a wanted war criminal.
Irenicus captures someone with the taint. Maybe Sarevok, probably not.
Shadow Thieves attack him, hes taken to Spellhold, no Bhaal soul for him.
Sarevok goes on the run with whoever is left. Tamoko and Winski are probably the only pawns/tools/party members he has left.
They go south so he can kill some more Bhaalspawn and try again. All the while, hes being hunted by Amn and probably gets killed.
Ilasera comes after Sarevok. She dies.
Gromnir holds Saradush. Balthazar figures out the heart thing, makes Yaga vulnerable.
Gromnir and Yaga Shura both end up dying during the siege, but if either survive, they kill Sarevok.
If Sarevok is still alive, he gets killed by the Army of Tethyr.
Balthazar and his merc army takes out Sendai.
Balthazar and his merc army takes out Abazigal.
If Melissan survived Saradush, Balthazar kills her.
Balthazar dies, no Bhaal essence for anyone.
He needed a Baal Soul, the rest is history,...
I don't think he ever thought it through to what he would do if he actually succeeded in genocide and exterminating the elves from Faerun as well as anyone who got in his way or annoyed him.
He probably would have traveled the world, continuing to search for some way to restore his lost emotions and feeling. In a fit of horrible boredom and malaise, he would likely have sought some way to destroy the entire planet and himself with it, into oblivion, in order to escape the torment of his own existence.
In oh so many ways, Irenicus is the most fascinating and layered villain of the series, and maybe ever, in a game. The Bhaalspawn villains, all of them, are very black and white, as well as crystal clear in their villainous or heroic motivations. But Irenicus exists in the most fascinating, and painfully colorless shades of grey. You don't just love to hate him, you also pity him and desire to redeem him. He is all of us, if we were to surrender completely to despair and hate.
He takes no joy in killing, unlike the Bhaalspawn, who delight in it. There is nothing for him but the agony of his hatred, and lack of any other feeling. He desperately desires to feel something else, but he never will again. He is in Hell, before he ever goes there literally in his fated end. He is a walking tragedy, and a terror to all other beings in his hatred-fueled power.
Isn't that what he attempted to do in the first place? i.e. the reason why the elves kicked him out?
As the only Survivor of the battle against Tarnesh she sets out on a road of revenge to kill everyone and everything involved with the death of her closest friend/family Charname. I suspect her alignment would change to ether Chaotic Netural or Lawful Evil in the process of her killing Tarnesh than killing Sarevok and thus preventing the war between Amm and Baldur's Gate.
I imagine after the death of Sarevok since she has no more purpose I guess she would wander a bit until she get's kidnapped by Jon Irencuis. He succeeded in taking her soul before the Shadow Thieves attack his home. She chases after him and eventually kills hims.
After that she would take each of the Five out one by one. I truly think she would be to kill Melissan and other especially if she reaches an Archmage level.
I wouldn't count out Gromnir because he is WAY smarter than he seems (not a very good representation of the only half-orc in the whole non-EE series). He had Melissan all figured out in pretty short order. Probably would have done something about it too if he had more time. Balthazar too had her figured out from the get go; though he had no intention of claiming the throne. He seemed to have Melissan captured at one point and that would have probably been that if CHARNAME weren't there to kill him. I'm going to pick Gromnir because I like him more though.
Because he's a cool dude.