Edwin is better than PC mage
knight1337
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his amulet is there to emulate the specialist class of a red wizard that exists in p&p
they give up two schools and in return get two additional spell slots
charname is not a red wizard obviously, so this item that you've made is not really lore friendly
The problem is that on top of getting this amulet, edwin is also a normal specialist so he has 3 bonus spell slots instead of just two - so the amulet should just give him one additional spell slot and everything would be fine
Except that he only has one school restriction instead of two, but that's an engine limitation i guess.
So they got it as close as possible to p&p with that limitation in mind. I say it emulates it okay. The intent to emulate it is apparent and that's what matters.
Then they could have added an unselectable kit. But what's the point of that, adding a kit (which is not the simplest of things) that only a single NPC is going to use.
It'd be superfluous.
Abdel Adrian masquerading as a Conjurer now? The phoney bard with tall tales of being a mighty warrior Bhaalspawn now tries to convince everyone that he was a mage?
I hope the real Gorion's ward teaches him a lesson... maybe a short spell of Imprisonment or chicken polymorph would suffice.
Edit: I think mages are powerful enough as is. You can pick min/max'd stats, hoard the best gear and pick powerful dual-class and multi-class options, so I don't see why Charname has to match Edwin spell for spell.
That said, singleplayer game, so of course enjoy it however you wish. I'm about to roll a Kensai/Druid afterall...
Being a RWoT doesn't mean you will automatically go along with what the Circle is doing, btw.
@WebShaman
Lore-wise @bob_veng has a good point. Gorion's Ward has a pretty specific background, which is incompatible with being a Red Wizard.
That said, you could play as a Half-Orc Blackguard, so...
But Red wizard in BG2? NO! that's too much... wtf! Coudn't Edwin give some teachings to main char during BG1?
Honestly if the specialist mages were implemented more PnP-faithfully nobody would complain about Edwin's extra spells, since Conjurers lose Divination and Invocation spells- no more Magic Missile, Chromatic Orb, Web, Fireball, Spell Sequencer, Chain Contingency, Cloudkill, Mordenkainen's Sword, etc. It would also make double specialists really interesting since you'd have to give up half of the spells in the game to be one (or at least 3/8)... but I really would consider that "overbalanced" and it would only be fun for the most restrictive of players.
So certainly there is the possibility of any imaginable Mentor type for Charname to actually be in Candlekeep.
The only thing then to consider is what possible chance would Charname have to study and learn under the Mentor. We would have to then take into consideration of what was Gorion really doing, and was he always in Candlekeep 24/7 (I think not), and such factors.
Tbh - I think that it is entirely possible for Charname to be really anything. Candlekeep is really the perfect starting origin place for just about anything, really.
Edwin is fine. He is only better than a PC mage if your PCs mage is a single class human with lousy stats and no tomes.
More information: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/28876/editing-creating-new-items
A little bit of pride and the imperious requirement to make charname stronger than the npcs.
Just teasing. A little bit.
If someone wants to create a more powerful wizard, just do so.
Whether a red wizard is a plausible kit is a different matter.
Of course, Edwin mostly doesn't care. Which might have something to do with him being Edwina, and turned into a statue in her Planar Sphere follwing her being jealous of a certain Red Wizardess...
I wouldn't be able to stand giving my character extra spells as some posters above did. I just let her play second fiddle for a while, and when the time came I let Minsc win the fight (not having realized there was going to be a fight - I hadn't played BG1 and didn't know he'd wanted to kill Dynaheir.) But you shouldn't have to cheat to make your character on par with an NPC. Not to mention, even if you don't mind letting your PC be a supporting character, he is just so damn cheap! I can't imagine using him and not feeling dirty, like I might as well just hit ctrl-Y. I'm not of the opinion that my character has to be the best mage in the world. I'm 100% on board with having her be inferior to Irenicus. I'm just not on board with having Irenicus be inferior to some NPC who's following me around. Why is he following me around, anyhow? It seems like I ought to be *his* cohort.
And by the way, while I did enjoy the amulet of power, I think it's pretty absurd to claim that Edwin's amulet isn't the best one in the game.
Also my neera let me wish 8 times during the amelyssan fight to get the rest option in one super unlucky streak where it just wouldn't come up...