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Katana purchase - Candlekeep

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  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,514
    Assuming people have correct saves, mages should be vulnerable to saves vs death. Wizards cap at 8 for save vs death, 4 vs spells. Isn't Pixie a save vs spells? Huh, no, I think its poison. However, I'd still prefer DoV, but you have made a good argument to try out Pixie on a warrior.

  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 1,468
    Try Stiletto de marchess or jade fang. Hold and stun are awesome. Free hits!

    JuliusBorisov
  • Lord_SavageLord_Savage Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2015
    I let auto roller run for about 2.5 days. I'm surprised the most it came up with was 97 points with a minimum setting for a 18/00 STR. Still plenty enough to start my campaign.

    Post edited by Lord_Savage on
  • MathsorcererMathsorcerer Member Posts: 2,338
    I tried a half-orc kensai for my first run through BGEE but I gave her specialization in bastard sword and two-weapon style rather than katana, figuring that bastards are easy to find or purchase if--when--they break. Although her really good offense made for a sufficient defense against lower-powered opponents, eventually the lack of armor was a hindrance. I think I actually ran the game out of potions of defense, buying every one we could afford, but it was worth it.

  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Member Posts: 33
    FrdNwsm said:

    Kensai are inferior in every way to berserkers. Just a heads up. Read up on all the things berserking can make you immune to during combat, then compare that to the wimpy kensai abilities. Plus, Kensai can't use missile weapons, armor, gauntlets or any of the really cool stuff.

    Allow me to educate you:

    1. +1 hit and +1 to damage every 3 levels translates to +13 to hit and +13 to damage at level 40. There is no item or ability in the entire game that gives such a huge bonus. This is also a FLAT, PASSIVE bonus. Berserk gives you, what, a whole +2 to damage only? And temporarily? Yawn. Ergo, in the long run, Kensai are simply better at killing things than the Berserker.

    2. An ability that allows you to maximize all your damage rolls is beyond incredible at high levels when we're talking about 10 attacks per round (all of them hitting). Berserkers have to roll damage as usual and can always roll 2's and 3's while a Kensai is doing a flat 10 every time with his Katana.

    3. Kensai have the speed factor. This means with just about any weapon they use, they will always strike first (-1 speed factor every 4 levels, translates into -10 at level 40, giving you a speed factor of 0 with every weapon in the game). This allows a Kensai to hit, move away, and hit again before the enemy has a chance to retaliate. Meanwhile any Berserker has a much, much harder time hitting first.

    4. All the status effects that Berserk makes you immune to are low level concerns that in the short term become a non-issue the second you figure out how to use potions and spells. In the long term it falls off and doesn't become an issue at all due to high saving throws provided by equipment and levels.

    5. Armor does not matter in end-game content. The enemies you fight have such high THACO they're going to hit you anyway. What Throne of Bhaal comes down to is damage output, period, and the Kensai has that in spades over the Berserker. Early levels, a Kensai can survive quite well using the Shield Amulet, Single Weapon Style and Rings/Cloaks of Protection. Besides, if you're tanking with a Kensai, you're doing it wrong.

    A level 40 Kensai would make sashimi out of a level 40 Berserker. It wouldn't even be close.

    thespaceQuartz
  • Yann1989Yann1989 Member Posts: 74
    edited June 2
    Blackhawk said:

    A level 40 Kensai would make sashimi out of a level 40 Berserker. It wouldn't even be close.

    lvl 40? Are we playing the same game?

    ThacoBell
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,763
    I've always hated the "my character is the most powerful at endgame!" argument. It's like, yea, that's great, but what about 90% of the rest of the game? You can make a ridiculously powerful dual-class character who just plain sucks for the vast majority of the game.

    That said, yea, Kensai is leagues beyond Berserker, especially in the latter half of levels. Not nearly as defendable, but as long as the Kensai is off-tanking or has plenty of heals ...

    ThacoBellGrond0
  • FQVBSinaFQVBSina Member Posts: 19
    DreadKhan said:

    1d10 + 1 = 6.5
    1d8 + 2 + 1 = 7.5 #JustSayin

    In my experience, if starting in BG1, you really don't NEED 18/00, but it is a heck of a buff compared to 18/01.

    wait... 18/00 is better than 18/99?

  • FQVBSinaFQVBSina Member Posts: 19
    Wowo said:

    Auto rolling is cheating, opinions on the matter are irrelevant.
    You can't dual class to sorcerer.
    11 wisdom doesn't seem helpful as the target is 18 (15 is a more usual place to start).
    Kensei should dual at level 9 or 13, not 12.
    Katana is an inferior choice through all of bg1 with longsword, scimitar, dagger, mace, bastard sword being better.
    If you want to dual to mage then you'll need 17 intelligence.

    I watched Quill18's video where he was going to dual wield Katanas as a "cheesy build" quoting himself. Perhaps I shouldn't be following his setup for my very first time playing this game...

  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 2,468
    FQVBSina said:

    DreadKhan said:

    1d10 + 1 = 6.5
    1d8 + 2 + 1 = 7.5 #JustSayin

    In my experience, if starting in BG1, you really don't NEED 18/00, but it is a heck of a buff compared to 18/01.

    wait... 18/00 is better than 18/99?
    Yup.

    00 means 100 in this case.

    ThacoBell
  • ElendarElendar Member Posts: 826
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 5,576
    Elendar said:

    3 year old thread

    As long as meaningful discussion is going on, I think its fine.

    Grond0Dev6Aerakar
  • Dev6Dev6 Member Posts: 512
    Quartz said:

    I've always hated the "my character is the most powerful at endgame!" argument. It's like, yea, that's great, but what about 90% of the rest of the game? You can make a ridiculously powerful dual-class character who just plain sucks for the vast majority of the game.

    And what happened to "I think this character is the most fun to play as.", I absolutely love berserkers, I couldn't care less about the Kensai being more powerful or not.
    I think old players sometimes spend too long thinking about power, and DPS, and saving throws, and math, and whatnot and just forget to have fun.

    ThacoBellAerakarQuartz
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