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  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    And then, there is the loading screen saying your characters don't need to eat, but you do. Just confirms that the Sword Coast doesn't need food, and they are probably all vampires, putting on a show for you with empty plates and glasses. What an elaborate deception it is, even going so far to build farms just to make you not see them for what they are.
  • DerDuKeDerDuKe Member Posts: 88
    I was wondering how to shorten time while waiting for the BG2:EE release. Now I know - thanks for this thread!
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    I agree that magic, like all forbidden knowledge , should be something more misterious and feared by the population. People in FR don't fear magic much, they don't fear zombies either , go figure...
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    @DJKajuru Actually according to Ed Greenwood, in FR canon the availability of magic items isn't as commonplace in Faerun as the game has it. But he also says it should be left up to the DM as to how "high magic" or "low magic," according to the group's preference.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Nope, doesn't bother me in the least.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    edited February 2013
    Lemernis said:

    @DJKajuru Actually according to Ed Greenwood, in FR canon the availability of magic items isn't as commonplace in Faerun as the game has it. But he also says it should be left up to the DM as to how "high magic" or "low magic," according to the group's preference.

    Thanks @Lemernis . I personally avoid treating magic as if it were a substitute for technology in medieval fantasy . It's better to hear a player say "oh my! a magic dagger!" rather than "a magic dagger! Now I can complete my collection of rare weapons!"
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    DerDuKe said:

    I was wondering how to shorten time while waiting for the BG2:EE release. Now I know - thanks for this thread!

    You're going to make a mod that adds toilets?

  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    pooping
    there is no pooping in Baldur's Gate
  • DerDuKeDerDuKe Member Posts: 88

    DerDuKe said:

    I was wondering how to shorten time while waiting for the BG2:EE release. Now I know - thanks for this thread!

    You're going to make a mod that adds toilets?

    I... um... I... what...? Hold on, I think there is some kind of misunderstanding... =D

  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    DerDuKe said:

    DerDuKe said:

    I was wondering how to shorten time while waiting for the BG2:EE release. Now I know - thanks for this thread!

    You're going to make a mod that adds toilets?

    I... um... I... what...? Hold on, I think there is some kind of misunderstanding... =D

    Why do you shatter my illusions like that? :(

  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    IkMarc said:

    lunar said:


    Frankly, I am more bothered by the lack of food in the game, if we are talking about immersion and realism. Like, all inns have quite a list of fancy drinks but no real food?

    Who needs food if there is booze?
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  • NifftNifft Member Posts: 1,065

    IkMarc said:

    lunar said:


    Frankly, I am more bothered by the lack of food in the game, if we are talking about immersion and realism. Like, all inns have quite a list of fancy drinks but no real food?

    Who needs food if there is booze?
    image

    What a liar.

    Guinness is obviously food.
  • ChippyChippy Member Posts: 241
    I suppose this explains Kagain's ill temper, as being of dwarven stature (under the average ground floor window cill's height) must have suffered many the chamber pot's contents to the head. What really concerns me is that Baldurs Gate doesn't explode in a puff of dust when you start releasing fireballs in it's sewers.
    My further concern (to add to the OP's deliberations) is to what do we consider the actual 'dragons hoard' after many the adventurer has been devoured, and we go merrily sifting about in post-dragon slaying glee.
  • iam1iam1 Member Posts: 43
    Lapa said:

    It bothers me. Why didn't developers draw toilets to houses? It doesn't really have any effect to the game but it made me think about other inconsistencies also.

    -Why all monsters are friends with each other?
    -Why someone wants to keep their money in a barrel?
    -Candlekeep's "you must offer a tome of great value to enter fortress"-rule is kind of stupid. I don't think many have those kind of tomes at their disposal. Very few people wants to enter there if you can't buy your entrance with money. This is also bad for Winthrop's business as an innkeeper when you don't have much customers.
    -Why is it allowed to use magic in the streets of a city? I think it's pretty dangerous to have a wild mage around which summons a nabassu in the middle of a crowd when trying to cast Identify.
    -Why bears are neutral towards you but wolves aren't?

    Well I understand that if the game would be more realistic, it would also be unpleasant experience. I'm not saying that the game is bad because it has these logical inconsistencies but sometimes I have a fun moment thinking about these things.

    If you have encountered some things in this game which makes you really think "this has no sense at all or this is very stupid thing", then share those thoughts.

    inconsistensys, maybe with today.

    if we're going to have toilets and wolves all chummy we should let the charname use a pulse rifle or something of the sort... perhaps calling in the occasional tactical nuke to help in the sarevok fight or helping fix the nashkel mines (maybe give miners power drills).

    tomes to enter candlekeep attracts the "right sort" of people to candlekeep.. people who have tomes and an interest in tome. people who have interest in money should go somewhere like amn (cuz city of coin no?)

    idk... i'd be offended if fusion reactors, plumbing, jetpacks and tanks were added to bg...
  • OYMEOYME Member Posts: 36
    iam1 said:

    Lapa said:

    idk... i'd be offended if fusion reactors, plumbing, jetpacks and tanks were added to bg...

    Well there is the big metal unit and that's kind of like a tank or a mech rather. Mage in-uh tank sounds catchy and dangerous, no?

    I also forgot to add to my previous post that in addition to fixing Aerie's wings with all those spells, you could also do the same thing to Minsc with his head wound problem too. You actually can cast the "heal" spell to fix the lunacy yackman ("NOO, DEMONS COVERED IN ILLUSIONS") was suffering from so why not Minsc as well?
  • iam1iam1 Member Posts: 43
    OYME said:

    iam1 said:

    Lapa said:

    idk... i'd be offended if fusion reactors, plumbing, jetpacks and tanks were added to bg...

    Well there is the big metal unit and that's kind of like a tank or a mech rather. Mage in-uh tank sounds catchy and dangerous, no?

    I also forgot to add to my previous post that in addition to fixing Aerie's wings with all those spells, you could also do the same thing to Minsc with his head wound problem too. You actually can cast the "heal" spell to fix the lunacy yackman ("NOO, DEMONS COVERED IN ILLUSIONS") was suffering from so why not Minsc as well?
    if minsc didnt have a headwound as an excuse for his behaviour (as in he was just an oddity)

    he wouldnt be nearly as funny.

    Aerie is just, in short - a whiny bitch. if not her wings then something else >.>
  • BoooomBoooom Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2013
    I agree there shouldn't be toilets because indoor plumbing doesn't seem likely in the Forgotten Realms. I think you'll only see that sort of thing in the more tech savvy FR civilizations, or maybe magical toilets. Netheril could have invented them. :D

    I do remember seeing an outhouse or two in BG1 & 2. I also think that the D'arnise keep had a toilet room above the moat...you know, so It'd drop into the water. Its not indoor plumbing but that's the best we can expect in the Sword Coast region. Maybe that's even how the Trolls got in to begin with. The pooper was the castle's downfall.

    A faction system for monsters would be awesome. Then we could lure them into fighting one another and swoop in to finish the remains.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    It must be difficult to complete the final rites of passage for the pet gold fishes of the realms...
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Nifft said:

    What a liar.

    Guinness is obviously food.

    Guinness is liquid *bread*, which is a kind of food, certainly. Hardly a complete meal.

  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    In German, there's a saying that 7 beers equal 1 schnitzel. The thing it doesn't factor in is how much 7 beers cost compared to 1 schnitzel. If anything, beer is very expensive food.
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Mmm...schnitzel. *hungry gurgle*
  • AbsoluteFallAbsoluteFall Member Posts: 25
    Lapa said:

    If you have encountered some things in this game which makes you really think "this has no sense at all or this is very stupid thing", then share those thoughts.

    Neera, tried to kill Charname with a magical surged pillow. @Nashkel Inn.

  • KamehouseKamehouse Member Posts: 66
    edited February 2013
    ...another one flaming because a game does not reflect the real world...
    @Topic: They are doing it in a pot and throw it on the streets. If you take a look back in time where the real world looked similar to BG without magic it was done this way.
    Post edited by Kamehouse on
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    iam1 said:

    Lapa said:

    It bothers me. Why didn't developers draw toilets to houses? It doesn't really have any effect to the game but it made me think about other inconsistencies also.

    -Why all monsters are friends with each other?
    -Why someone wants to keep their money in a barrel?
    -Candlekeep's "you must offer a tome of great value to enter fortress"-rule is kind of stupid. I don't think many have those kind of tomes at their disposal. Very few people wants to enter there if you can't buy your entrance with money. This is also bad for Winthrop's business as an innkeeper when you don't have much customers.
    -Why is it allowed to use magic in the streets of a city? I think it's pretty dangerous to have a wild mage around which summons a nabassu in the middle of a crowd when trying to cast Identify.
    -Why bears are neutral towards you but wolves aren't?

    Well I understand that if the game would be more realistic, it would also be unpleasant experience. I'm not saying that the game is bad because it has these logical inconsistencies but sometimes I have a fun moment thinking about these things.

    If you have encountered some things in this game which makes you really think "this has no sense at all or this is very stupid thing", then share those thoughts.

    inconsistensys, maybe with today.

    if we're going to have toilets and wolves all chummy we should let the charname use a pulse rifle or something of the sort... perhaps calling in the occasional tactical nuke to help in the sarevok fight or helping fix the nashkel mines (maybe give miners power drills).

    tomes to enter candlekeep attracts the "right sort" of people to candlekeep.. people who have tomes and an interest in tome. people who have interest in money should go somewhere like amn (cuz city of coin no?)

    idk... i'd be offended if fusion reactors, plumbing, jetpacks and tanks were added to bg...
    Well, giving the miners powerdrills would certainly help them dig through to the underdark.
  • PantalionPantalion Member Posts: 2,137
    Lapa said:

    It bothers me. Why didn't developers draw toilets to houses?

    Because keeping your money in a toilet would just be silly.
  • KamehouseKamehouse Member Posts: 66
    Don't think so. Hiding it there is less silly than putting it in a desk...
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    ...or a barrel on the *streets*. I can see why people would hide gold in their houses or on their property, but a barrel on the street, where everyone can take it? Compared to that, a toilet is a perfectly good hiding place.
  • LMTR14LMTR14 Member Posts: 165

    In German, there's a saying that 7 beers equal 1 schnitzel. The thing it doesn't factor in is how much 7 beers cost compared to 1 schnitzel. If anything, beer is very expensive food.

    7 beers certainly do not equate a Schnitzel either in nutrition or in €... supermarket or restaurant, this saying simply does not work whatsoever

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