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Kitting NPC's, what would you change?

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  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    edited March 2013
    Debaser said:

    Oh I like that art! Are there any more by that artist of the BG cast?

    @Debaser

    The artist is @Nixxi

    These are the original artworks currently available:

    Imoen

    Viconia

    Minsc & Boo

    Aerie

    Edit: added link for Aerie
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  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    Debaser said:


    But who says an Assassin couldn't be sent to guard Xzar and dispose of him afterward. =P

    I see it as a balance between the paired NPCs. Minsc is a fighter class with an extra ability, paired with Dynaheir (who can dual to cleric with a tome), therefore Montaron has the "extra" of also being a thief, yet he's still a fighter class, paired with Xzar (who can also dual to cleric with a tome).
    From the roleplay logic, I can see how an assassin makes a good bodyguard (I play my own assassin as Edwin's bodyguard), but for the game balance, it would be wrong and take a lot frontline power from an early evil party. Monty needs the fighter side to balance Xzar's pitiful HP.
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Safana with her high 17 DEX, 16 INT and 17 CHA should be a Bard/Blade
    or a swashbuckler dueled to mage enchanter
    her portrait is very sultry
  • DazzuDazzu Member Posts: 950
    Why couldn't they have released simpler kits like, for example, the Burglar? It would have practically screamed Alora being one.
  • NifftNifft Member Posts: 1,065
    Erg said:

    Debaser said:

    Oh I like that art! Are there any more by that artist of the BG cast?

    @Debaser

    The artist is @Nixxi
    Thanks, I didn't bookmark where I'd gotten Imoen's picture. :-)
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    I'd change Neera into an gnome and give her a beard. Does that count?
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Is this for a mod or is this just a wishlist of what you think each NPC should be ?
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,725
    Every time I read the title of this thread I think about kiLLing NPCs and that I don't want to change anything in that regard.
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Monty should be a multiclass/multikit Wizard slayer/assassin
  • NifftNifft Member Posts: 1,065

    Monty should be a multiclass/multikit Wizard slayer

    Why do you hate Monty?

    What did he ever do to you?
  • DazzuDazzu Member Posts: 950
    Nifft said:

    Monty should be a multiclass/multikit Wizard slayer

    Why do you hate Monty?

    What did he ever do to you?
    That sounds potentially dangerous for ToB with UAI making his only real weakness irrelevant.
  • tommytommy Member Posts: 401
    just to mention it, i have already create a mod and a tool which give kits to the NPCs:
    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/12326/mod-giving-npcs-classkits-tool-version-alpha-5-mod-version-1-3
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Ka
    Nifft said:

    Monty should be a multiclass/multikit Wizard slayer

    Why do you hate Monty?
    What did he ever do to you?
    New Kit for Kalid "" Druid Slayer""

  • FafnirFafnir Member Posts: 232

    Ka

    Nifft said:

    Monty should be a multiclass/multikit Wizard slayer

    Why do you hate Monty?
    What did he ever do to you?
    New Kit for Kalid "" Druid Slayer""

    His broadsword is super-effective on Jaheira.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    Khalid special ability: Petrify self.
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    Fafnir said:

    His broadsword is super-effective on Jaheira.

    Broadsword...? I was always under the impression that Khalid was the fastest dart user on the Sword Coast. Though his reloading takes quite some time from what I've heard.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199

    Fafnir said:

    His broadsword is super-effective on Jaheira.

    Broadsword...? I was always under the impression that Khalid was the fastest dart user on the Sword Coast. Though his reloading takes quite some time from what I've heard.
    That's just what she tells Charname in BG2 so he doesn't feel bad.
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Fafnir said:

    Ka

    Nifft said:

    Monty should be a multiclass/multikit Wizard slayer

    Why do you hate Monty?
    What did he ever do to you?
    New Kit for Kalid "" Druid Slayer""
    His broadsword is super-effective on Jaheira.
    Shar teel ""If it bleeds I can kill it "
    Garrick "' Once more into the breech dear friends ""
    Minsc "OOh My Boo Likes the Forest"
    New Kit for Minsc. Instead of Beastmaster your Ranger can now be a BOOmaster
    special ability GO FOR THE EYES
    Fail save target is blinded for 5 Turns
  • AnaximanderAnaximander Member Posts: 191
    Often in my tutu/bgt games I would change imoen to a blade :D We had to pick up monty or some other rogue or my charname had to be a rogue but it worked well, didn't even seem to break the story much as she very early on talks about pick pocketing the monks at candlekeep and bards do pickpocket to the exception of other thief skills ...
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Here's the ones I would change ( my wishlist)

    Ajantis- Either as a Paladin/Inquisitor or I think it would be interesting if he was changed to a Lawful Neutral Priest of Helm
    Branwen-Berserker fighter dueled to Priest
    Coran- Bard Blade still gets 3* in longbows or Swashbukler with 3* in longbows and Charm person special ability
    Eldorth-Bard Jester
    Faldorn-Avanger
    Garrick- Skald
    Imoen-Vanilla bard (better fit of her alignment and her growing up at Candlekeep)
    Khalid- Wizard Slayer or Fighter/Mage Multiclass
    Kivan-Archer
    Minsc-Barbarian with charm animal special ability
    Montaron-multiclass with multikit wizard slayer/ assassin makes him very powerful, I know, but its Monty
    Safana- Given she grew up as a noble she should be a Bard blade or a swashbukler with charm person special ability
    Skie- Shadowdancer
    Rasaad- Sun Soul Monk
    Xan-Keep the same but give him an xtra * in swords and a draw on holy might special abilty
    Yeslick- dwarven Defender sounds good
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    Some of the following will be illegal and/or not in the game.

    Ajantis: Cavalier
    Alora: As-Is (or new Burglar kit)
    Branwen: Fighter/Cleric dual, or specialty Battlepriest of Tempus kit
    Coran: Fighter/Bounty Hunter (Illegal)
    Dynaheir: Sorcerer
    Edwin: As-Is (or special Red Wizard kit)
    Eldoth: Jester, or a new Charlatan kit
    Faldorn: Avenger
    Garrick: Bard (As-Is: I don't feel any of the kits really fit him)
    Imoen: Bard (Maybe give her a kit in BG2)
    Jaheira: As-Is
    Kagain: Fighter (or new Mercenary kit)
    Khalid: Fighter/Mage
    Kivan: Stalker (As good as he is with a bow, I think Stalker fits his personality and story better)
    Minsc: As-Is (or 'Rashemar Ranger' kit).
    Montaron: Fighter/Assassin (Illegal)
    Quayle; As-Is
    Rasaad: Sun Soul Monk
    Safana: Swashbuckler
    Shar-Teel: Fighter (or some kind of new Amazon kit)
    Skie: Shadowdancer
    Tiax: As-Is, or Thief/Priest of Cyric (Illegal, obviously)
    Viconia: As-Is (or special Nightcloak of Shar kit)
    Xan: Enchanter (Give him one + in Single-Weapon Style)
    Xzar: As-Is
    Yeslick: Dwarven Defender/Cleric (Illegal)
  • AristilliusAristillius Member Posts: 873
    I dont get the reasoning behind "Kivan is good with a bow, therefore he should be an archer" Cant he just be ranger who is a good archer? :p Minsc is also definately a ranger, but a special one. I think the classes should be more broadly defined than what some say here. "Monty is too evil to be a thief"? come on....
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    Agreed about Kivan. People label him as archer because he has that portrait, but with Coran around, I see no need to give anyone an Archer kit. It would be silly to have an official Archer and Coran is still a better archer...
  • joshuar9476joshuar9476 Member Posts: 55
    Well, it's illegal, but I almost always leave Jaheira as a F/D but kit her as an Amazon from RTTKitpack and have her wield a quarterstaff.
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    Warrior
    Ajantis - Cavalier! Or I guess you could keep him a regular Paladin. Either way, he's still a bro.
    Khalid - Fighter/Mage.
    Shar-Teel - Maybe Wizard Slayer? I don't know, all I know is that her past sucked and that she hates the Flaming Fist. I want to see more of her backstory!

    Wizard
    Xan - Turn him into a Fighter/Mage and strongify him, or something, the Moonblade would make more sense, then, and it might actually give me a reason to hit "L" to reload when he "accidentally" gets petrified. "BRO I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO DRAIN TANK LIKE IN WOW SORRY"

    Priest
    Faldorn - Avenger?

    Rogue
    Garrick - A Jester, if anything. I love that guy!
    Safana - Swashbuckler, since she were on pirate ships an' what-not. Either way, she's going to steal my heart. :3
    Skie - A Bounty Hunter with face-paint and dual serrated short swords. Keep as Thief.

    Multi-Class
    Coran - Carrion for Shar-Teel's pet vulture, Velva the Warrior. Philandering, dead-beat pig.
    Montaron - Assassin. Fighter/Thief might still work, though. Either/or!
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