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Why can't bards wear gloves of ogre strength?

DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
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It says "unusable to thieves and mages" !

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  • Permidion_StarkPermidion_Stark Member Posts: 4,861
    atcDave said:

    I think the idea is both of those classes require fine finger dexterity to practice their craft. While the Gauntles of Ogre Power are more like something from a heavy suit of armor.

    This explains why you never see an ogre playing the harp.

  • KaltzorKaltzor Member Posts: 1,050
    Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    edited August 2013
    DJKajuru said:

    It says "unusable to thieves and mages" !

    Yes, this is a bug; bards should be able to use them.
    Kaltzor said:

    Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...

    No they're not.
  • IchigoRXCIchigoRXC Member Posts: 1,001
    edited August 2013
    Is the bug that they can not use them? Or is the bug that they are not listed as unable to?
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    Kaltzor said:

    Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...

    You're probably thinking of "rogue", a term sometimes used when referring to bards and thieves (not sure if this is an official term or something that people just started using out of convenience). Similar to the "warrior" (referring to fighters, paladins, and rangers) and "priest" (clerics and druids).
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    Priest also refers to the Monk class, oddly enough. :)
  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448
    The gauntlets are supposed to be the actual hands of an unfortunate ogre. Can you imagine him playing a flute or a harp? :-D
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    Dee said:

    Priest also refers to the Monk class, oddly enough. :)

    I like you. :3
    Yeah, it's sort of weird...I can see them being Warriors, or Priests. But, philosophy overrides punchy, in many cases...
  • ZanathKariashiZanathKariashi Member Posts: 2,869
    Actually fighting monk is indeed a priest kit (gains a bunch of bonuses with unarmed attacks, requires light armor (base AC no greater then 8), gains their wis save bonus as an AC bonus, slight movement speed bonus, no turn undead, and slower spell progression with only a handful of spheres).

    (though the BG monk is pretty much word for word from the Oriental Adventures monk...which is pretty much a thief (only real difference is that OA monk gets ALL thief skills (Samurai will NOT work with a ninja, so monks are the only way to get thief like skills into a Honorable group), but only 15 points per level), and their benefits come faster but are slightly weaker (and it has a cap of level 17, since choosing to level up to 18 as a monk results in your character attaining nirvana and leaving the world).
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Dee said:

    Priest also refers to the Monk class, oddly enough. :)

    Well monks do get a priests hit dice. So I suppose its not that strange.
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    atcDave said:

    I think the idea is both of those classes require fine finger dexterity to practice their craft. While the Gauntles of Ogre Power are more like something from a heavy suit of armor.

    Astafas said:

    The gauntlets are supposed to be the actual hands of an unfortunate ogre. Can you imagine him playing a flute or a harp? :-D

    I can't imagine a fighter wielding a sword with them either.

    Dude and dudettes: they're magic.
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    David Gaider said that bards should be able to use them.
  • KaltzorKaltzor Member Posts: 1,050
    edited August 2013
    TJ_Hooker said:

    Kaltzor said:

    Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...

    You're probably thinking of "rogue", a term sometimes used when referring to bards and thieves (not sure if this is an official term or something that people just started using out of convenience). Similar to the "warrior" (referring to fighters, paladins, and rangers) and "priest" (clerics and druids).
    Well, Thief and Rogue are more or less interchangeable in RPG terms really...
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    Kaltzor said:

    TJ_Hooker said:

    Kaltzor said:

    Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...

    You're probably thinking of "rogue", a term sometimes used when referring to bards and thieves (not sure if this is an official term or something that people just started using out of convenience). Similar to the "warrior" (referring to fighters, paladins, and rangers) and "priest" (clerics and druids).
    Well, Thief and Rogue are more or less interchangeable in RPG terms really...
    Yeah, but I was referring to BG (and D&D) in particular (specifically 2E, as I believe thieves were renamed rogues in 3E).
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    From a roleplay point of view, I accept that my blade (bard) needs swift hands to swing his swords like an angel.
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,002
    fighter/thieves can wear them, and fighter/mages as well, look who you battle to get them (:
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