Being Eldoth Kron, Bhaalspawn
KidCarnival
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Two days ago, I cast True Sight when playing and saw that it is my destiny to play BG2EE as Eldoth, as he is clearly a Bhaalspawn. He was not included as NPC because I am supposed to play as him. As a delusional (?) Eldoth who thinks that Irenicus kidnapped Skie, who - after her father's death - was married against her will to a wealthy merchant and holds massive blackmail potential. Or in other words, I finally found a reason to go to Spellhold for my bard. I can't stand Imoen, so this was always a bit of an immersion problem for me. Now, with this somewhat crackfic-ish premise, I feel a new sense of determination.
Here's the problem:
Eldoth has ridicolous stats. With 12 dex and 13 int, I'll have to give Eldoth Charname a massive boost already - upgrading the 82 he has to the 93 of my bard-waiting-to-be-edited-and-exported. I shall justify this by counting in tomes and the stat boost all NPCs got for BG2. I don't really want to change more, so I'm stuck with 3 weapon profs I would usually avoid. However, those are the canon profs Eldoth has when meeting him in Cloakwood, so I'd like to use them:
♪ Long Bow - boosting dex, no problem, but there aren't any worthwhile Long Bows
♪ Scimitar - never cared about that prof at all; are there any good ones in BG2?
♪ Spear - same, at least I don't remember any spears of note in BG2
Which sucks the least? What weapon options do I have? Do I favor melee/strength or ranged/dex when adjusting the stats? And last but not least, can I give a BG2EE charname the "Create Poison Arrows" ability? I don't see it in EEkeeper, since it's not a kit ability.
My party will be the now possible all evil party; Dorn, Korgan, Edwin, Viconia, Hexxat and I will be very disappointed and angry if Skie turns out to be Imoen.
Edit: Forgot, it's gonna be vanilla bard.
Here's the problem:
Eldoth has ridicolous stats. With 12 dex and 13 int, I'll have to give Eldoth Charname a massive boost already - upgrading the 82 he has to the 93 of my bard-waiting-to-be-edited-and-exported. I shall justify this by counting in tomes and the stat boost all NPCs got for BG2. I don't really want to change more, so I'm stuck with 3 weapon profs I would usually avoid. However, those are the canon profs Eldoth has when meeting him in Cloakwood, so I'd like to use them:
♪ Long Bow - boosting dex, no problem, but there aren't any worthwhile Long Bows
♪ Scimitar - never cared about that prof at all; are there any good ones in BG2?
♪ Spear - same, at least I don't remember any spears of note in BG2
Which sucks the least? What weapon options do I have? Do I favor melee/strength or ranged/dex when adjusting the stats? And last but not least, can I give a BG2EE charname the "Create Poison Arrows" ability? I don't see it in EEkeeper, since it's not a kit ability.
My party will be the now possible all evil party; Dorn, Korgan, Edwin, Viconia, Hexxat and I will be very disappointed and angry if Skie turns out to be Imoen.
Edit: Forgot, it's gonna be vanilla bard.
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Checking on mikespg, scimitars get kind of shafted until TOB (counting wakazashi/ninja-tos). There's nothing that spectacular with long bows, but long bows are pretty sweet with their 2 apr already. At least you can get the elven court bow fairly early on. There are a few OKish spears.
I always gave Eldoth the gauntlets of dex and let him have it out with long bows. He made a great back row support with arrows and spells. That might get kind of boring for a charname, though. Scimitars or spears might be more fun.
For the poison arrows, you can always console 3 arrows of biting in AROW05 once a day.
And you are stuck with Imoen, UNLESS you start a multiplayer game and also create Skie to take her place in the story.
I'm actually fine with being utility; so bow and support casting doesn't sound too bad. With Dorn and Korgan, I would only be support as frontliner too. Thinking about it, Viconia can fill that role better and Hexxat could be anything. Backrow and learning spells Edwin can't learn seems the better idea. I'll go for dex over strength and console 5 Arrows of Biting. Or just take Acid Arrow as mandatory level 3 spell, maybe.
As for Skie, well... Eldoth Charname thinks that Irenicus is the wealthy merchant Skie was forced to marry. It shouldn't be too surprising when it turns out he is not, and Imoen is not Skie.
Though, I am thinking about creating Skie. The backstory here would be: Her mother tracked her down after the events of BG1 and arranged a marriage to a wealthy merchant. Skie wanted to continue adventuring and stole an amulet, a wand of magic missiles and a teleportation scroll from Sorcerous Sundries. With the amulet, she bribed one of the Zhent necromancers upstairs to cast the spell for her, which teleported her to wherever Irenicus abducted her, along with Eldoth Charname, Edwin (who got away later, before the captives were brought to the dungeon) and Jaheira, Khalid and Minsc, who were hunting Edwin for killing Dynaheir. (Since my BG1 bard travelled with Edwin, she's dead long before BG2.) Skie managed to disguise her wand as a hairpin, takes Imoen's place and frees Eldoth. Outside the dungeon, she uses the wand and is sent to Spellhold.
Of course, Eldoth immediately finds the next tavern because who cares what happens to Skie. He then hears rumors about her wealthy husband and sees the potential in rescuing her. He also meets Korgan when getting drunk, who mentions all the magical artifacts Spellhold must have, so looting the place and rescuing Skie becomes even more appealing. Eldoth then begins to search a way to get inside, and decides to pose as a master thief and get on board with the thieves guild, where he runs into Edwin. Who also has an interest in looting Spellhold (thinking they will be glad to hand over their confiscated artifacts to a responsible magic user, aka him). Dorn and Hexxat, I'll see how they fit in the rescue/looting party. For that, I would multiplayer Skie at appropriate level in Spellhold. But I want to see Hexxat's new content, so I'll probably go with the delusional option.
Edit: Just checked the weapons; I think I'll focus on Long Bow and Spear, going for Withering since it has poison damage. That fits the theme, and might be less dull and tedious than consoling Arrows of Biting.
Longbows are also a good early BG2 choice as you get lots of decent +3 ones quickly. For the mid-endgame Shortbows and Crossbows do better.
For weapon proficiencies on a vanilla bard, you can only get proficient anyway! It shouldn't be too bad to have a diverse range.
@onan: That shouldn't be a problem. I hear Viconia converted to Ilmater and offered to suffer for my sins. If I find her on a stake in BG2, it is only proof that Eldoth is a Bhaalspawn. (Now I also want to play as Xzar who searches Monty in Spellhold...)
If you have Near Infinity, maybe experiment with making original Eldoth exportable, then re-importing him as the PC (changing stats with NI or 'keeper)
Eldoth is in the game. He's just not recruitable.
@Eudaemonium: I don't have NI. Is it possible this is linked to the exact name? Charname-Eldoth is "Eldoth Kron", NPC-Eldoth is only "Eldoth", so my next attempt will be changing the name. If nothing works, I'll have to resort to consoling arrows.
2. Make grand dismissive statement that's actually incorrect
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!
Secondly, if you see Eldoth in BG2, kill the darn doppleganger where he stands. Fancy taking your looks and personality for your own...
Also, and I love the idea, but you know I'm twisted. Why not play Garrick?
Okay... sick...
(And he is also in BG2, but best excuse yet to kill the annoying bardicle...)
Anyway, I don't have such a vast interest in what other people think about the roleplay idea, I was just looking for feedback about 3 weapon profs I never paid much attention to, beyond giving Eldoth Dead Shot in BG1.
And why not play as Garrick, but consider Xzar? One word: Voiceset.
This is a case of me forgetting that Eldoth is ones of its components.
I'm also open for weapon prof ideas. I will take Scimitar next, to be accurate, but after that, I'm not sold on anything yet. I like the idea to take weapons I rarely or never use, possibly strictly picking after "what weapon is available with poison damage" to make up for the inability to create arrows. I'm usually very attached to quarterstaff, short bow (thief), darts (bard) and hammer (cleric), so I'd like to avoid those. Dagger? Axe? Halberd?
It doesn't really add romances. More like flings.
Gnome ladies don't have beards, much less dwarf ladies.
Pretty well convinced me to uninstall it lol.
Overall though it mostly adds flings to people who already flirt with you in the vanilla game, so it's kind of smart.