I usually go by a 'anything lower than 88 doesn't feel remarkable for the son/daughter of a god' rule.
Decided upon two concepts. Half-orc fighter/thief - liked strong sounding names for this guy. Khulgard or Jarek.
Second concept was to fiddle around with the new class of Shadow Dancer. Thinking a neutral-evil half-elf. A sort of Eldoth Kron manipulator and very selfish. Name for this guy? ... Malakai.
Probably go for my half-orc concept. I think half-orc's are badass and it fits into my vision of the reluctant, gruff anti-hero type. Sorta like, say Wolverine out of the X-Men.
Roll of 90 for Malakai. Decided to stick with Jarek because I haven't done the Viconia romance before or even played a melee/thievery based character, let alone a half-orc.
Final stats:
Strength: 19 Dexterity: 17 - 16 in Hell - 17 from Lum's machine. Constitution: 17 Intelligence: 14 - 15 from Lum's machine. Wisdom: 12 - 11 in Spellhold - 12 in Hell. Charisma: 14 - 15 in Hell.
Stats were mainly for roleplaying purposes.
Given he's a hot-blooded half-orc, he's immensely strong/hardy from training with the guards in Candlekeep and adventuring AND being the child of a god. I pictured him not having Sarevok's technique/intelligence in a sword fight, but beating him ever so slightly in a battle of raw strength and will.
His thievery aspect is from hanging out with Imoen and wanting to stand out from other half-orc stereotypes of just hitting things (though he does that well) - he'll begin more of a utlity style thief - locks and trap disarming to reflect that he and Imoen took a similar approach.
Intelligence - from Gorion and the monks lessons in Candlekeep, knows bits and pieces about the realms, can speak a couple of languages in addition to common.
Wisdom - school of hard-knocks, being half an orc and the son of a god gives you some insight as to how you're different - a fatalistic notion of yourself and how you relate to others, but it's not super high when combined with the chaotic neutral temperament to give him some 'failing' or flaw as a character.
Charisma - more human than orcish in appearance, moderately attractive for a half-orc (though still beastial in appearance - Dorn-like tusks etc) but charismatic in as much as he doesn't take any shit from people, can deliver instructions as a leader fairly well, though perhaps a bit too brutalistic some times - lacks the subtle delivery of his little sister or experienced presence of someone like Keldorn. Nevertheless, Viconia is liking his rough-around-the-edges sense of urgency, power and drive.
Enjoying this play-through a lot. Fighter/Thief multi-class is just enough to manage without things being too boring. I tend to play mages, thieves and bard types a lot, without little focus on melee. Viconia romance is good too, though I slightly prefer Jaheira.
I did use Keeper to Multi-class myself to Fighter / Wild Mage. Still not sure why you can't specialize.
Though in BG2 it hit me that my Wisdom even with 3 tomes was going to be shy for the Wish spell. I wonder if I should've dropped Constitution to 15 knowing it would get to 16 with manuals (does Fighter / Mage get the CON benefit that Warriors do post 16? I'm not sure... if not then I'll probably keeper edit my score to be much more useful) and dropped Dex to 18 to wind up with
STR19 | DEX19 | CON16 | INT19 | WIS18 | CHA8
Se la vie...
How do you multiclass with Keeper? I tryed to create an Assassin/Fighter but wasn't able to: I was only able to change the "name" of the class to Assassin/Fighter but on level up I didn't gained any bonus (or malus) of the Assassin.
How do you multiclass with Keeper? I tryed to create an Assassin/Fighter but wasn't able to: I was only able to change the "name" of the class to Assassin/Fighter but on level up I didn't gained any bonus (or malus) of the Assassin.
Some properties/skills are given at levelup or character creation. If you are dualing, it is better to add the kit to the other class and THEN dual. Fighter->Fighter(EEKeeper Assassin kit, I know it makes no sense)->Fighter/Thief(Assassin) in your case. If you are multiclassing, it's always better to create the character as the more complex class and make it a multiclass later. Assassin->EEKeeper from Thief to Fighter/Thief in your case. Sometimes you have no option but to tweak some things manually, like the amount of proficiencies (2->4) and hp in the above case. Other things like saves and thac0 should fix themselves at the first levelup.
After testing the waters with my Dragon Disciple and Avenger (both of which I used to complete BGEE), I've decided to go with the first character with which I completed BGEE, my Swashbuckler/Mage (dual-class).
EVERETTO
Human (Male) Chaotic Good Mage Level 9 (141,000 exp.) [Current class] Swashbuckler Level 6 (20,000 exp.) [Previous class]
I'm cheesing around because I can't seem to settle for anything... 98 roll neutral evil elf (well, technically; inofficially genasi with dao djinn heritage) F/T/M. EEkeepered to illusionist as official/displayed kit and assassin abilities with a personal throwing dagger that (accidentally) turned out even more OP than intended as main weapon (Miscast Magic chance on hit, Melf's Acid damage chance on hit; turned out to also Lower Resistance in BG2EE - oops; this was meant to be a mage killer, but it also does very well against dragons, beholders and lichs).
I can't figure out how to take screenshots with my laptop's keyboard, but here goes: (Warning - extreme cheese follows) Jerrol CE Halfling Fighter/Shadowdancer Str 10 (he wears a belt for 19 xD) Dex 19->20 Con 17->18 Int 15->16 Wis 10 Cha 18->19 Total 89->93 after tomes, 100+ with items. I used Wis tomes on Xzar (thanks @KidCarnival!) & a Str tome on Dorn in BG1. I went with the Halfling thief dual-wielding daggers portrait from IWD, with his green attire recolored to red. He offhands Kundane, and switches between The Jade Fang and The Axe of Hrothgar in his main hand, with the appropriate proficiencies. In a pinch, he'll sheathe/holster everything and ready a crossbow, which was his main weapon for much of BG1. Like I said, cheesy. But I love 'im.
wisdom 18-> 3 from Bg 1 / 2 from mods in SoA /hell trail 1/ lum machine 1 -> 25 use ee keeper to dual her becouse then i don't now of restriction of dualing
DANCES WITH FERRETS AVENGER - human just cuz taller than half elf (shallow I know) w/ Dust Mephit familiar via bug. That has died so much Con went from 19 to 15 He stays in the pack these days Mostly useful as a 100% flame retardant trap-setting dummy when you're not going rogue
Daelvin NG Half-Elf Fighter/Mage Initial roll of 92 + all the tomes Pseudo Dragon for a familiar Nothing really exotic, but as powerful as any F/M can be, especially with strength enhancing items.
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My ign dwarf look like my portrait when he puts Helm of Balduran on btw
STR:18
DEX:18
CON:18
INT:12
WIS:10
CHA:16
I used to be a Mage in BG:EE, than I got tired of it, so I tried this Monk that everyone seems to hate.
Str 19 (lum and tome)
Dex21
Con 20
Int 20
Wis 8
Cha 20
Started with 94 ib bg 1.
He is level 20 and romances aerie.
Companions keldorn and jan.
True neutral, loves killing but is a hero
I usually go by a 'anything lower than 88 doesn't feel remarkable for the son/daughter of a god' rule.
Decided upon two concepts. Half-orc fighter/thief - liked strong sounding names for this guy. Khulgard or Jarek.
Second concept was to fiddle around with the new class of Shadow Dancer. Thinking a neutral-evil half-elf. A sort of Eldoth Kron manipulator and very selfish. Name for this guy? ... Malakai.
Probably go for my half-orc concept. I think half-orc's are badass and it fits into my vision of the reluctant, gruff anti-hero type. Sorta like, say Wolverine out of the X-Men.
Final stats:
Strength: 19
Dexterity: 17 - 16 in Hell - 17 from Lum's machine.
Constitution: 17
Intelligence: 14 - 15 from Lum's machine.
Wisdom: 12 - 11 in Spellhold - 12 in Hell.
Charisma: 14 - 15 in Hell.
Stats were mainly for roleplaying purposes.
Given he's a hot-blooded half-orc, he's immensely strong/hardy from training with the guards in Candlekeep and adventuring AND being the child of a god. I pictured him not having Sarevok's technique/intelligence in a sword fight, but beating him ever so slightly in a battle of raw strength and will.
His thievery aspect is from hanging out with Imoen and wanting to stand out from other half-orc stereotypes of just hitting things (though he does that well) - he'll begin more of a utlity style thief - locks and trap disarming to reflect that he and Imoen took a similar approach.
Intelligence - from Gorion and the monks lessons in Candlekeep, knows bits and pieces about the realms, can speak a couple of languages in addition to common.
Wisdom - school of hard-knocks, being half an orc and the son of a god gives you some insight as to how you're different - a fatalistic notion of yourself and how you relate to others, but it's not super high when combined with the chaotic neutral temperament to give him some 'failing' or flaw as a character.
Charisma - more human than orcish in appearance, moderately attractive for a half-orc (though still beastial in appearance - Dorn-like tusks etc) but charismatic in as much as he doesn't take any shit from people, can deliver instructions as a leader fairly well, though perhaps a bit too brutalistic some times - lacks the subtle delivery of his little sister or experienced presence of someone like Keldorn. Nevertheless, Viconia is liking his rough-around-the-edges sense of urgency, power and drive.
Enjoying this play-through a lot. Fighter/Thief multi-class is just enough to manage without things being too boring. I tend to play mages, thieves and bard types a lot, without little focus on melee. Viconia romance is good too, though I slightly prefer Jaheira.
Doubt I will try Aerie, not my flavour at all.
rolled 91, used tomes for st, dx, con, and cha
19
19
19
12
11
15
4 katana, 2 single wield, will work up shortboows in SOA
Benedict
Level 9 Kensai/Level 13 Mage Dual-Class
Human, male, neutral good
Strength: 19
Dexterity: 18
Intelligence: 19
Wisdom: 9
Constitution: 19
Charisma: 15 (18 w/ ring)
HP: 155
Katana +++++
Flail ++
Two Weapon Style +++
If you are dualing, it is better to add the kit to the other class and THEN dual.
Fighter->Fighter(EEKeeper Assassin kit, I know it makes no sense)->Fighter/Thief(Assassin) in your case.
If you are multiclassing, it's always better to create the character as the more complex class and make it a multiclass later.
Assassin->EEKeeper from Thief to Fighter/Thief in your case.
Sometimes you have no option but to tweak some things manually, like the amount of proficiencies (2->4) and hp in the above case. Other things like saves and thac0 should fix themselves at the first levelup.
EVERETTO
Human (Male)
Chaotic Good
Mage Level 9 (141,000 exp.) [Current class]
Swashbuckler Level 6 (20,000 exp.) [Previous class]
Strength 19
Dexterity 19
Constitution 16
Intelligence 19
Wisdom 11
Charisma 14
Base THAC0: 17
Lore: 39
Reputation: 20
Weapon Proficiencies
Dagger: **
Katana: **
Single-weapon Style: *
How do you change the race name in character sheet? Is EE Keeper sufficient or do you have to dig deeper (and hope not to wake shadows and flames)?
Although - his name spells "Cow" in certain languages.
I'm cheesing around because I can't seem to settle for anything... 98 roll neutral evil elf (well, technically; inofficially genasi with dao djinn heritage) F/T/M. EEkeepered to illusionist as official/displayed kit and assassin abilities with a personal throwing dagger that (accidentally) turned out even more OP than intended as main weapon (Miscast Magic chance on hit, Melf's Acid damage chance on hit; turned out to also Lower Resistance in BG2EE - oops; this was meant to be a mage killer, but it also does very well against dragons, beholders and lichs).
(Warning - extreme cheese follows)
Jerrol
CE Halfling Fighter/Shadowdancer
Str 10 (he wears a belt for 19 xD)
Dex 19->20
Con 17->18
Int 15->16
Wis 10
Cha 18->19
Total 89->93 after tomes, 100+ with items.
I used Wis tomes on Xzar (thanks @KidCarnival!) & a Str tome on Dorn in BG1.
I went with the Halfling thief dual-wielding daggers portrait from IWD, with his green attire recolored to red.
He offhands Kundane, and switches between The Jade Fang and The Axe of Hrothgar in his main hand, with the appropriate proficiencies. In a pinch, he'll sheathe/holster everything and ready a crossbow, which was his main weapon for much of BG1.
Like I said, cheesy. But I love 'im.
wisdom 18-> 3 from Bg 1 / 2 from mods in SoA /hell trail 1/ lum machine 1 -> 25
use ee keeper to dual her becouse then i don't now of restriction of dualing
AVENGER - human just cuz taller than half elf (shallow I know)
w/ Dust Mephit familiar via bug.
That has died so much Con went from 19 to 15
He stays in the pack these days
Mostly useful as a 100% flame retardant trap-setting dummy
when you're not going rogue
NG Half-Elf Fighter/Mage
Initial roll of 92 + all the tomes
Pseudo Dragon for a familiar
Nothing really exotic, but as powerful as any F/M can be, especially with strength enhancing items.
CG Human Fighter
Hella tough when armed with two bastard swords
Also fairly deadly with a longbow
How did you dual to a kit?