Sorry @AndreaColombo - as far as I could see, it is NEARLY impossible to kill Drizzt with Garrick, or with any bard for that matter. The THAC0 is simply to high, he's immune to all magic and wand effects, has one helluva saves.
As far as I am concerned, the only way to do it would be to level up Garrick till level 20 or so with an XP cap remover, but that's not legit.
Now, how it COULD be possible to kill him - have a heckton of patience and get around 13 critical hits, with a crossbow of speed or accuracy and bolts of your choice. It would take more or less 500 bolts and a couple of hours of gaming which is something I'm not able to endure.
I'm pretty damn convinced now that the only class that can pull a Drizzt kill (without mods) is in fact the Fighter/Cleric/Mage (straight combat one on one).... or any thief with the ring of invisibility, buffs and backstabs. (hit and run)
if you are using tutu you can allways buy stoneskin scrolls and use them and hit drizzt and use second scroll and again and again. and protection from magical weapons scrolls might be available.
Stoneskin would be a... Drizzt Breaker if you want to call it that. Currently am thinking of any other means to render him an easy go. As far as I am concerned, only clerical buffs can help, but most of them aren't available for anyone else but the caster, so Garrick can't be helped there.
Tried that as well (my hope was the ultimate wand - the Wand of Frost to work, but he magic resists about 99% of the charges). Maybe simulate backstabs by getting invisible, hit, hiding, hit, hiding, hit, etc? Not a very brave battle for brave brave sir Garrick though XD
if you have tales of the swordcoast installed you can get greater malison and polymorph other or just some chaos/sleep/horror to go with that malison, might make it a bit too easy if it works.
Thats the only way i can think of if not using any cheese.
Starting out at first level, win with a party of only mages.
Ohh hey I like that...I've done the Solo as a mage thing, but never played an entire group of mages....
That's actually one of the funnest games I ever played. In order to get them down to Nashkel I was forced to stay off the main road, lol. It was a bit of a nailbiter early on.
In my game IIRC the PC was a Generalist, accompanied by a Conjurer, Transmuter, Invoker, Necromancer, Illuisionist, and Enchanter. I had them exhaust their own school's spells first before turning to other schools' spells. It was fun to actually have the specialists behave as such.
My challenge to myself is having the selfcontrol to not buy BG or BG2 from GOG.com in the next 37 days and actually wait for the enhanced edition to satisfy my craving... its gonna be one hell of a challenge ><
@kharas if it gets the better of you, will loan you my copy of the game. it still works after all these years, but if you scratch them, I WILL STEAL MINSC'S HAMSTER AND TELL HIM THAT YOU ATE IT!!!!!! RAAAAAAWH!!!
I had gone through a challenge made on the old BioWare forums which was basically having a party of just one class. My pick was 6 monks, that were going through Tutu, SoA and ToB. The first third was the most awoken nightmare I ever had. It was basically "kill kobold, rest till healed" for the entire game. Worst part was that I had to use weapons for certain monsters as monks don't get a +1 fist until level 9 (which is out of the XP cap of BG1)
Shadows of Amn is where the monks started to grow into big guys. Slowly. VERY slowly. Once they hit 3 million XP each and they started getting HLAs, magic resistance... well, they became unstoppable. 6 quivering palms at once = 99.9% death to anything moving. Dragons, demons, bosses, didn't really matter.
Throne of Bhaal was a speedrun. They were so fast I swept through most enemies like butter. It was really an enjoyable challenge.
Will try to think about the 6 mages challenge though. Would that involve having PC + Xzar + Dynaheir + Edwin + Xan alone? Those are 5... am I missing another mage? I don't think I am?
@Kharas look, in all honesty, if you can spare the money (not saying you can't afford it, but let's face it, money is better saved when possible), i want to say that there is an infinity collection on GoG, that has IWD, IWD2, BG 1, totsc, 2, ToB, and planescape torment for ummm, 19.99. I can link it if you like, and PS:T and IWD 1 & 2 (with all the expnasions) would keep you busy. Also, just in case BG:EE doesn't live up to the orginal, i'm keeping all my old games installed. It's not likely for it suck, but let's be honest, the possibility is always there.
Only about a .5%, with a 99.5% of being awesome, but i've learned to wait and see.
Lots of great ideas here. But I am figuring out that there are so many basic variations I haven't tried that I need to do them too. Alignments, party members, etc. There are probably side quests I never saw in a few thousand hours of play time. In BG1 I usually played some variation of good, maybe neutral a time or two. And my party, unless it was all characters I created was almost always some mix of Imoen, Jahiera, Khalid, Kivan, Minsc, Branwen, and Ajantis. Hardly ever Dynaheir and I don't remember why. I normally played as a Mage so I guess I thought I needed lots of muscle from the NPCs.
well i'd did start the no rest playthrough, but i gotta say, once i hit bg2, i will rest at the point between the two games. Also, in ToB, will rest there. Kinda like work what i will into my spell book that i'll need for the game and then rest, as ehhhh, i figure that point is fair and i'm not sure if the game will take the rest into consideration.
Also, this does make the game much much more strategic for me. Didn't realize the full effect of no cleric healing. Lol.
@Kharas Sorry, my aliengment for today is Lawful Evil (smug asshole :P), so forgive me, but i need to get this out of my system.
But thou must. . . . . But thou must. . . . . But thou must.
@LadyRhian : well, that would make sense story-wise. But wouldn't a bow user in the midst of 5 weaklings using staves, slings, darts and other non conventional means be OP for the challenge? XD
Or I could simply Gatekeep her into a... a... ABJURER! *DUM... DUUUUUM.... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!*
@LREC well, just to put two together from this board, my original idea + i think it was ajwz. You as a bard or mage, your choice, and only dynier as your partner, plus a no rest game
but let's see, to be really evil, crazy hard but possible, add to it that you can use either A.) a total of ten scroll castings per game per char (so 20 scrolls total for the game), or B.) little easier and a little harder, you can use scrolls, but you can only cast a spell once, not per person, just once. So you use a scroll of magic missle, you can never use that scroll again. you can use fireball once, but never again after that. In both versions, wands suffer the same penalty as a scroll. Either you can use them a total of 10 times per char (on top of the scrolls, so 20 scroll spells total + 20 wand spells total), or you can only use them only once. each charge counts as one useage. This of course goes in with a no rest game. Otherwise, you'd have to add the same limitations to spell book casting, making it easier, but depends on how much challenge you like.
let me know if you'd like more. i try to make it completely possible although very difficult. i always love a good challenge and you'd be surprised some of the things i do to challenge myself to think rather then take the easy path.
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I wonder if Drizzt can be blinded. If so, then he's toast.
As far as I am concerned, the only way to do it would be to level up Garrick till level 20 or so with an XP cap remover, but that's not legit.
Now, how it COULD be possible to kill him - have a heckton of patience and get around 13 critical hits, with a crossbow of speed or accuracy and bolts of your choice. It would take more or less 500 bolts and a couple of hours of gaming which is something I'm not able to endure.
I'm pretty damn convinced now that the only class that can pull a Drizzt kill (without mods) is in fact the Fighter/Cleric/Mage (straight combat one on one).... or any thief with the ring of invisibility, buffs and backstabs. (hit and run)
So yeah, sorry mate - challenge failed.
Stoneskin would be a... Drizzt Breaker if you want to call it that. Currently am thinking of any other means to render him an easy go. As far as I am concerned, only clerical buffs can help, but most of them aren't available for anyone else but the caster, so Garrick can't be helped there.
Thats the only way i can think of if not using any cheese.
In my game IIRC the PC was a Generalist, accompanied by a Conjurer, Transmuter, Invoker, Necromancer, Illuisionist, and Enchanter. I had them exhaust their own school's spells first before turning to other schools' spells. It was fun to actually have the specialists behave as such.
Shadows of Amn is where the monks started to grow into big guys. Slowly. VERY slowly. Once they hit 3 million XP each and they started getting HLAs, magic resistance... well, they became unstoppable. 6 quivering palms at once = 99.9% death to anything moving. Dragons, demons, bosses, didn't really matter.
Throne of Bhaal was a speedrun. They were so fast I swept through most enemies like butter. It was really an enjoyable challenge.
Will try to think about the 6 mages challenge though. Would that involve having PC + Xzar + Dynaheir + Edwin + Xan alone? Those are 5... am I missing another mage? I don't think I am?
Only about a .5%, with a 99.5% of being awesome, but i've learned to wait and see.
Come on... this is like a person with 500 ltr of good beer and whiskey entering an alcoholic ward and set up a shop.... Just Not Fair!!!!
Leave me alone!!! Im trying to beat a channelge here.. and 20 minuts later you are trying to make me crumble.. and so so close to succeding
Also, this does make the game much much more strategic for me. Didn't realize the full effect of no cleric healing. Lol.
@Kharas Sorry, my aliengment for today is Lawful Evil (smug asshole :P), so forgive me, but i need to get this out of my system.
But thou must.
.
.
.
.
But thou must.
.
.
.
.
But thou must.
Or I could simply Gatekeep her into a... a... ABJURER! *DUM... DUUUUUM.... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!*
and that's just kindness, nothing dirty
well, not much, i could do muuuuuuuch better
but let's see, to be really evil, crazy hard but possible, add to it that you can use either A.) a total of ten scroll castings per game per char (so 20 scrolls total for the game), or B.) little easier and a little harder, you can use scrolls, but you can only cast a spell once, not per person, just once. So you use a scroll of magic missle, you can never use that scroll again. you can use fireball once, but never again after that. In both versions, wands suffer the same penalty as a scroll. Either you can use them a total of 10 times per char (on top of the scrolls, so 20 scroll spells total + 20 wand spells total), or you can only use them only once. each charge counts as one useage. This of course goes in with a no rest game. Otherwise, you'd have to add the same limitations to spell book casting, making it easier, but depends on how much challenge you like.
let me know if you'd like more. i try to make it completely possible although very difficult. i always love a good challenge and you'd be surprised some of the things i do to challenge myself to think rather then take the easy path.